Season 2 Highlights: Holistic Health | Pinworms, Skin Flares, Mold & More

What’s up, what’s eating you, fam? As you know, season two has been absolutely epic so far. From worms, ParaFy parasite cleansing, testing your body and home for mold to reproductive health, the truth about water, the power of deep sleep, detoxing from breast implant illness, healthy hair, skin, and beauty tips, holistic healing, and so much more. Here are some of our top highlights from season two thus far. Enjoy, be well, and mush love. Welcome back to What’s Eating You. We are your hosts, Sam and Kim. And we are serving you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you’re hungry for. Please remember to like, subscribe, and share with your loved ones to help us get this important information out to any and everyone that it can help. Today is a super special episode because we have our very first in-person guest. And who better than Dr. Juliana Giles, ND natural doctor, and Kim’s personal doctor? Welcome to What’s Eating You, Dr. J. Yeah. Thanks, Dr. J.

Dr. Giles: 1:15

How are you? I’m doing great. Glad to be here. So I specialize in Ayurvedic medicine, naturopathic medicine, um, and really in general, complex chronic illness and um oncology, because I did my residency in integrative oncology. So that’s my main specialty, but within that, anything complex chronic illnesses like multi-systemic illness, you know, autoimmune illnesses, um, chronic infections, things like that. And I also do a lot of mind-body medicine and work with trauma, a lot of trauma work because that affects all the systems in the body as well. Yeah.

Sam: 1:51

Yeah, I always love to spell holistic W-H-O-L because it really is the approach to health and the body as a whole, complete system, instead of focusing on only one thing, one symptom, one area, but everything is interconnected. Our entire system is connected. So you take a whole W-H-O-L-E approach to healing and help and vitality and well-being, right?

Dr. Giles: 2:19

Yeah. And I also realize that a person is not an island. So the person is a part of a family system, is part of a larger lineage, is part of a community, and um, what’s in the community, including environmental toxins, things like that. So it’s all so not only is it wholism in terms of one person, but their interconnectedness with all that is essentially. That’s really what holism is to me.

Kim: 2:42

And it allows you to understand that individual’s health as we’re finding out because you’re treating pretty much my whole family now. Right. Because I dug down, found everything with you, and then we’ve spone out and been like, okay, that mold my mom gave me, so we can actually like nail it down.

Sam: 3:00

When you heard Kim’s story and backstory, see you said you specialize in complex chronic illness. Yep. Couldn’t really be a more perfect fit because what a complex history she had already had. Yep. So when you heard the story and they brought it to you, what made you say, Yes, I am confident I can help this woman heal. I I know what to do. Let’s go.

Dr. Giles: 3:23

She was hungry for it. She was ready. I knew right away she was ready. I don’t even think at the time, Kim, you knew how ready you were, but you were ready. You were ready to do anything it took, pretty much. And anytime I have somebody in front of me who’s willing, I it’s an inner knowing, it’s an inner sense of like they’re willing to do anything. And also when because we had such an immediate alliance and there’s an immediate trust and an immediate rapport. And then Kim being so ready to heal and being so proactive about her health. And I the fact that she and Jarrett had come as far as they had without any guidance was incredible to me. And I was like, if they have brought it this far just on their own, we can do as a team, like we can do anything. We’re we got like I knew at that moment we got this. Like I have the ability to order the right tests, to be able to, you know, refine things, figure things out, dig it all up, get, you know, whatever on board that we need to get on board, help guide things. But they were already so self-directed and so motivated, and he was so motivated to help her too. It was just like immediate team effort. We’re in this together, like, let’s do this thing. And I just knew, also because of Kim’s um primary diagnosis at the time, it’s very similar to an oncology diagnosis. It’s very much on that spectrum. And then autoimmunity stuff, like again, that complex chronic illness, and that’s what I do.

Kim: 4:45

That’s what I do. And that’s what we do.

Dr. Giles: 4:53

Exactly. Give me some time. This isn’t gonna be an overnight fix. You know, it’s gonna take some time, bear with me, but like we will get there.

Kim: 4:59

She said we were sitting there talking about this, and because I’ve had medical abandonment and you’re such an amazing person, she looked at me and goes, I will never leave you. I will always be here for you, no matter what.

Dr. Giles: 5:13

Yeah, I said, I’m never giving up on you. Yeah. You said I’m not, you’re not? And I said, Absolutely not. I was like, I’m I’m I’ll be by you. I was like, as long as you want me to be there, I’ll be here to help direct things, you know. And I was like, I got you. And here we are.

Kim: 5:27

Here we are four years later. Y’all made a pact.

Sam: 5:31

Yeah, we have a pact.

Kim: 5:32

I’m in here. I just need help. Yeah. And they said, I just need your help getting me out. Exactly. Like I’m stuck. Yep. And I don’t know how to get myself out. I’ve done every single thing that Jeremy and I can do to get me out. Yeah. And I just need a little more assistance. I just need someone to come in and help me take charge of the situation.

Dr. Giles: 5:52

She was even able to dump everything on me at that point was huge because it again was. At first, it was hard for you to still get things out. And there was a lot of tears. It was between a lot of tears. So once you were able to really get it all out, then it helped it helped me to sift it down to clear it up. And it was all essentially relevant. But you just at that point, you were so in it to be able to sort it out, sift through it, you know, clear it out.

Kim: 6:25

Most people don’t just show up at their clinic and be like, I’d like a stillate ganglia block. I know I need it. Something’s in me. I gotta get it out. I don’t know what it is, but I need to get this nerve block. So stellate ganglia block is your stellate ganglia is in here, it holds trauma, it holds like all sorts of emotions and nerves and stress, and you can go in and block that nerve that allows you to reset your nervous system and get you out of fight or flight. So it takes you from sympathetic nervous. Yes. You’re sympathetic to para, right? So you’re like working on it so that you can get a rest for just a moment to be able to get clear. It is a nervous system reset. And you have two places that the stellate uh ganglia is it’s in your neck and in your hip. So if you have a lot of hip pain, it’s kind of the same. You’re just manifesting the pain of your trauma or your emotions down in your hip. Mine manifested here.

Sam: 7:16

And so I which even makes sense shocker-wise, but not being able to talk the growth. And then Dr. J, what is the actual SGB procedure? Like what do they do?

Dr. Giles: 7:26

It’s ultrasound guided. So the cellate ganglion is it’s on both sides, but normally we start in the right. So it’s ultrasound guided because it’s right by the jugular and the carotid. So it obviously cannot inject in there accidentally. So it’s ultrasound guided so that we can see the tissues, and then you can actually see that ganglion right there. And it’s injected with um a long-acting anesthetic like bupivacaine, which is just a 12-hour long acting anesthetic. But in injecting right next to it, it basically blocks all sympathetic signals from the neck down. So even if somebody’s mentally getting really triggered in fight or flight, the body is not able to respond to that. So the body gets a break and is calmed down. And can heal and can that because it exactly goes into rest, it forces parasympathetic tone.

Kim: 8:17

And it also works for pain. And that’s kind of another thing that obviously when you have PTSD, your extremities are always in pain. So my hands when I know it’s time to get an injection because my hands hurt. So it really is kind of a pain, it helps with the pain. I mean, that’s really what they’re developing it more for, too. But I get the left side because I research that there’s multiple traumas. The left side works the best. I’ve done both sides and I get more out of that side. So you should try it. You can’t do it at the same time, by the way. No, you can’t because it actually like paralyzes it just for a few hours, and you have like a saggy face, which is normal. I have a lot of videos on my account before and after when I do it, so people can actually like see what it looks like. Right. Because it is kind of weird. You look like you’ve stroked.

Dr. Giles: 9:06

Yeah.

Kim: 9:06

But you can that means that it works. I mean it’s at it work. And it doesn’t always mean that if it doesn’t do that, it didn’t work, but it just really like gets in there.

Dr. Giles: 9:13

And yeah, and you’re right. People usually respond more on one side than it’s about 80% respond to the right and about 20% respond on the left. So you don’t know until you do it.

Kim: 9:22

And what happened after you got it? Like it was just immediate relief. The noise that was in my mind, it just paused and stopped. And I was able to go, oh my gosh, what the heck? Like, I can’t believe I was trapped inside of me. Like, wow. So everything changed. Everything changed in that moment. Even my voice changed because I did a before video and I did an after video. And even my voice changed because before I was like, so I’m gonna go get a stelake ganglia block. And then after I was like, I’ve got it, I got it. Like my voice went. Throat shock girl wide a little bit. It hasn’t stopped since it hasn’t shopped since. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Sam: 9:59

I don’t think I’ve heard Kim quiet since meeting her.

Kim: 10:02

Well, I got my stelake ganglia block. I was doing so much better. It opened up my space in my mind to be able to then navigate. Could I have worms? Right? Like, seriously. And it was just if you could come in now.

Sam: 10:14

Because there was space for it to come in. It wasn’t your mind wasn’t overloaded with all this noise.

Kim: 10:17

So this idea enters like I could possibly have worms. Right. So when I was scrolling with purpose, I ended up coming across that girl’s TikTok video, and she was talking about how worms almost unalived herself. And obviously, I stopped and I was like, oh, what I’ve just been through. Is it is this a possible thing? And then I remember um getting a test, and then I got positive on the test from parasites.org, and I immediately called you and said, I’m not sure what to do.

Dr. Giles: 10:45

And you said, I’ve been in the same place where I’ve also had worms and it would test positive and it couldn’t get triggered. Yeah, I got worms and bullying. Yeah, worms and bullying. I was like, I got you, I know.

Kim: 11:00

Yeah, nobody because no one would believe me. And so I said, I’m not sure what to do here, Jay. Yeah, Dr. Giles, I’m not sure what to do. And she goes, Don’t worry about it. I’ve got you. I had worms one time in Bali. And I’m like, girl, what do you mean?

Dr. Giles: 11:14

And she’s so how did you get worms in Bali? I was there for two months and I forgot to brush my teeth with bottled water one time. One time, and that’s all it took. That’s all it took. And I knew that I had worms because I had a bunch of symptoms that I was first of all, I was seeing them. Second of all, I had a bunch of symptoms that I had never had in my life. And so there was a clear delta, there was a clear change. Like you were seeing them come out in the toilet. Yes. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. And um, and I could feel them. I could feel them coming out at night, basically. And it was messing with my sleep and all that. Yeah, no, like, did you get some scotch tape? No, I didn’t even, I didn’t even have to. I didn’t even have to because I had the symptoms and I knew I was like, I know exactly what this is, I know where this came from. Went to the naturopathic clinic for my school. They tested me and said, we can’t find anything. It’s totally normal. We can’t treat you because it’s the treatment, like the risks of treatment outweigh the benefits if we can’t find anything. And I was like, yeah.

Sam: 12:10

Sidebart. You were seeing worms in the toilet. Yep. You were feeling them come out at night, and you got tested for worms and it came back negative. Correct. So just a testament to everyone, we do always talk about this, but these parasite tests are not always accurate. And a lot of the time they’re not. Um, I was tested before I tested, I got my gut tested, and it did come back positive, but I can’t count the number of times we hear people report back in the community that they got tested and they came back negative. And there’s so many variables and factors under why. They only test a small amount of the stool, whatever. There’s all these different things. But do not depend or rely just on test results to decide if you have parasites or not. A ParaFy cleanse isn’t gonna do you harm either way. It’s going to help you no matter what. And if you have a hunch or instinct that you have parasites or worms, I would just go ahead and pull the trigger and do a ParaFy cleanse.

Kim: 13:07

Why say do it three to four times a year? I mean, we’re just exposed all day, every day. Like you just don’t even know your water, water and volley, water and tell that’s where it goes. And that kind of was like a light bulb moment because when after when we figured out that I had worms, and then I started cleansing. So I cleansed, and then I figured out I had worms, and then I figured out it was in my water, and it was definitely a contributing factor that you had gotten when you brush your teeth in Bali.

Dr. Giles: 13:35

Yep, absolutely. Yeah, and and there was, I tell patients this all the time, there was no parasite kit in the line. So I had, and they wouldn’t treat me. So I had to, and I was in my first quarter of medical school. So I didn’t even like I knew only what I had taught myself, and so I had to get online and read everything I could possibly read about what natural things kill this, kill pinworms as pinworms.

Kim: 13:58

And that’s hard. Pinworms are difficult. They’re lice of the butt.

Dr. Giles: 14:01

Thank God. Thank God I had just gotten it. I got symptoms really quickly. I knew what they were, and so I was able to treat it super early. And I just stayed on it. I had to, I had to stay on this protocol that I created for myself for about six or eight weeks daily on it, on it, on it, on it. And I continued to treat for at least a month after I had no symptoms because I knew there’s still eggs, there’s still the life cycle. Like I just kept going with it. And then, and it was a lot of also um fiber to bind and get it out. And that was part of the whole thing. Um, so thank God they never came back. I could definitely tell from symptoms because I was symptomatic and I knew exactly what they were. Honestly, within probably of a week of starting my protocol, it everything all the symptoms started getting better. But again, I was just so, so on it and diligent because I was extremely motivated to not let them come back. It was horrified. I was so worried. I was horrified.

Kim: 14:58

It was horrified. What makes it so good for me to be the worm queen, specifically because I get it. Like it, it’s and you feel so invaded. Oh, so like you feel so like so invaded. Yeah, like it’s so intrusive. So intrusive. So intrusive. Intrusive. Yeah.

Sam: 15:15

Uh I’ve been cleansing for going on two years now. Okay. Off and on, lots of ParaFy cleanses. Okay. They’re still exiting my nose.

Kim: 15:24

They just re- they just they reproduce so fast. It’s really hard to like gain control. And you’ve even done big P, so synthetics, and you’ve rotated, and it’s just a process. Like I saw one a couple of weeks ago.

Sam: 15:38

So that not feeling good right before they exit is like a big thing. And it could possibly be the moment they’re dying.

Kim: 15:46

Well, and they’re pulling your body’s pulling the energy in order for you to be able to push it out more. So it’s like gathering all of the energy to that one way of pushing that toxin out of your body. So you’re not feeling that. And then it’s also them dying. Yeah, yeah.

Dr. Giles: 16:03

And they’re releasing PP. Which is called a it was so as they die, it activates um the basically the allergic type pathway. It’s called a Herxheimer response, histamine degranulation. First of all, that’s neurotoxic. So it causes a lot of mental and emotional imbalance and a lot of brain fog and feeling really off. But it is basically a systemic inflammatory response or allergic type response that happens any time that there’s a parasite dying in your body, even if it’s just one. But of course, if you’re riddled with them, that die-off is going to be a lot greater and it’s going to cause systemic um symptoms. That’s called a Herxheimer reaction. It’s well documented in medical literature.

Sam: 16:41

Yeah, the good news is it’s always temporary and it’s better out than in. So you don’t want these things living in you. So any kind of fear of die-off symptoms or having that reaction should not prevent you from parasite cleansing. You need to get them out. So for any first timers who never have yet, we highly, highly recommend that you do go to rogershood.com and get yourself a ParaFy Kit. Please get a ParaFy kit for you and your family. You need this in your life. If you’ve never parasite cleansed before, you need to do one because you do have them. Everyone comes into contact with them. You can go to rogershood.com, you can use the code What’s EatingU. What’s eating in the letter U is how we spell it for 10% off. Today we are talking about water.

Kim: 17:26

Water! It is one of my favorite things to talk about next to worms. It’s kind of been my jam my whole life, actually. It wasn’t just since finding out that our water has worms in it and made me sicker and Jeremy sicker. I actually have carried around a filter for our shower, which we’ll talk more about what that looks like.

Sam: 17:45

I’ve done the ParaFy Cleanse several times and hundreds of worms have left my body. So there could definitely be a connection because it is a misconception that city water is the water that’s like bad, you shouldn’t drink it out of the tap, but mountain water or well water is great. Yes. But you know different.

Kim: 18:05

Right. In fact, when I worked in the emergency room and in the field, the first thing we asked if someone had 10 days, so we’d go 10X, 10 days. Um, if you had abdominal pain, diarrhea, do you have a well? It really was like a first instinct for us to say, Do you have a well? Oh, you don’t? Okay, then you would just immediately move on to your next questions that you would ask to figure out what was going on with the person. And so when all of this kind of took place for us, we actually were contaminated from a community well. And there’s thousands of people that live in Hoodsport. So again, it went back to the whole well situation where this community well was providing the water, which we tested and it tested positive for nematodes. So it wasn’t just city water. I feel like it was cleaner, you know, no heavy metals, no um pharmaceuticals, but it’s water from the earth. In the earth, this is normal. Like worms are meant to be here on earth to do their job, but we’re supposed to, at the point in time we’re at in our life now, filter all of our water. I mean, that’s really where this is conversation is gonna end up going with us. But you should be filtering your water even when it’s well water for sure when it’s city water. We’re in Seattle, as you can see, and I live in Seattle, and I’ve tested the Seattle water, which also tested positive for nematodes. And the more research that I’ve done, the more I found out that our country doesn’t test our water for nematodes, they only test it for parasites, which is a protozoa of Giardia, defragiles, or crypto. And when you have like a pipe water break and they tell you to boil your water, that’s why. Let me just tell you guys, I come with props. So uh Dr. Giles brought this. Funny enough, we hadn’t decided for sure tonight we were gonna do a water podcast. But life is lifing and aligning. And it just makes so much sense because we have so many funny stories about how we’re in Seattle and what Jeremy and I look like when we’re staycationing and can’t get a filter on.

Sam: 20:22

We’re literally staying at an Airbnb in Seattle so that we can film episodes for you guys. And this was like a workation, and it’s a beautiful home in Seattle. You see the view, like you see where we’re at. This is a wonderful home we’re staying at. And every single day and night, Kim and Jar have driven to their apartment to shower because they couldn’t get a filter on the showers here at the house, and that shows how much they are committed to not showering or bathing or even brushing their teeth or washing their face. Kim has literally driven home just to wash her face with her water. So that’s like shows the commitment of how much they don’t want to use Seattle water or drink it or bathe in it. Why is that?

Kim: 21:07

Well, first off, they let everybody here know that the water is pristine, reliable, mountain fresh, safe, protected, precious resource, high quality, great tasting, and clean. So they send this to you in the mail and they talk all about how great the water is. Unfortunately, I’ve tested it at an independent lab and it’s really not that great. So it’s full of dirt. We I I can we will show you guys what it looks like after five showers. It’s brown, it’s gunky, there’s it’s sludgy, and I’ve gone viral over the water here in Seattle showing you guys my filters. I actually have a filter that we kind of created. Um, again, another prop, but I did this. Jeremy and I did this together because this right here is all of the minerals that this here is going to remove. And the reason why I have it in set like this, and two is because this gets so clogged so fast after five showers. Oh, I’ve seen it. That we don’t want to have to continue to keep changing this. So we unscrew this, change this little filter out, and then at least this stays good. So we’re double covered. And so it’s just crazy to think that we literally got this in the mail for this podcast. And then this is what Jeremy and I use. You can find this on my Amazon storefront. The reason why this is so important is that this is a five micron filter. A nematode is 40 micron. So you need something smaller than that in order to stop it from just going through the filter. And then this is a one micron, so you’re getting double-down protection from the water. And then because it’s stripping everything out of the water before it gets to your body, you need to have add back minerals, which is what’s inside of this filter. And it’s very important that you do an add back because your hair will get dry, your skin will get dry, there’s nothing remineralizing back into your body. And you can absorb up to two cups of water every 15 minutes when you’re bathing, showering, do in the pool, going in the lake. And so you want to be as protective as possible, and especially when you’re showering, because water is such a fundamental for health. And when you don’t have good water and you’re bathing in pharmaceuticals and heavy metals and parasites, you really are doing a disservice and it can continue to set you back. And I didn’t realize that until I went viral on TikTok and I kept being sick. Like I’m cleansing and I’m cleansing, and all these things are happening. And in my comments, people are like, Kim, do you think it’s in your water? And I and it freaked me out a little bit, but it really freaked Jeremy out. It it rocked my husband’s world for days when our water came back positive for nematodes. He thought that if there’s no bacteria, we checked it for bacteria. If there’s no bacteria, there’s no way that parasites can live in it. And they put chlorine in the water sometimes, but crypto and chlorine love each other and hang out. So there’s so many misconceptions here.

Sam: 24:37

What do you go for when choosing drinking water and we’re not and and not filtered from your home, but like if you’re out and about, like what is your your recommendation for that?

Kim: 24:47

Well, I definitely recommend something like Mountain Valley when you’re drinking, because now you can buy that anywhere. It’s in glass. It’s overall just a it’s been tested really well. I follow a gentleman, uh, his thing is Oasis. And so I follow him and he tests all of these, and Mountain Valley tests um really high, like 91 out of 100 right now. That could change, but that’s what it tests for. And then I love aphora. Aphora is a live water, it’s a nano-pure, restructured, hyper-oxygenated drinking water. It’s actually medical grade.

Sam: 25:20

Welcome to the show, Dr. Motley. Thank you for being on What’s Eating You.

Dr Motley: 25:24

Oh, I’m grateful, I’m thankful, and I’m really excited. When we talk about frequency medicine and using music and tones to help heal individuals, my mentor is Dr. Dowdy, and he was out of Wichita, and he wanted to use electronic or electric medicine more than he wanted to use nutritional medicine. I can’t speak for him. He’s like he’s like a surrogate dad, he’s just like my dad, you know. Basically, in a nutshell, is if you can’t actually heal the tissue or help the body heal through using vibration, sound, light, or some form of frequency. So what he would do, just a quick backdrop, is that your muscles or your ligaments all vibrate at a certain healthy range, and if they fall out of that range, they can either get very cramped or they can actually lose strength or they can actually get diseased. And there’s a lot of brilliant doctors that have done that before. And he found out that he could take microcurrent machines and put these little 10 unit tens unit stickers on you and run the current through the muscles and bring it back to a healthy level. And he would see things which I can’t really mention on this about like going into things going into remission that would normally not be going into remission, uh, eventually helping people that had chronic parasites, yeast, mold viruses, heal up because when the infection is so deep and you take some things and you’re like, well, there’s something still in my shoulder, he realized that he had to put a vibration in that joint to help pull that infection out. So when he started to use that, he I learned from him, and he would have people on tables, like four or five tables, and have these current machines set up right near their vagus nerve, and he says, You can run the current through the brainstem, and if you cause the brainstem to have a vibration at a certain rate, it’ll send a vibration through the rest of the body from your brainstem. So he would be helping people with anxiety, he’d help people with emotional issues. He wouldn’t try to, he’s not really that, he’s not a really emotional guy, but people that had chronic infections. So all that to say, when I started to learn, he he developed a device that is similar to what we call a toughness instrument. So bear with me, I know it’s a lot to take in. But in a nutshell, if I use this small device, and I should have brought it over here, but basically it’s a small device that can pick up on the vibration and energy from these two or anybody you’re working on. So with Kim, if you guys see the video, if I ever put my hand on Kim and she will automatically transfer energy to me. And that happens to everybody out there. Sam does it with Kim, and vice versa. It’s the same thing when you’re around somebody and you’ll feel your hair stand on in, or it’s the same feeling you get when somebody’s vibration patterns are not congruent with yours and you feel not comfortable around them.

Sam: 28:15

A clash, yeah.

Dr Motley: 28:16

Yeah, you know, there there’s they call it the out-of-phase vibrational patterns, like you have reversed flipped vibrations with somebody. And so he developed a device and he found out that through his investigation that if I touched a part that was blocked of energy, you would essentially transfer the energy to me at that area. And my body, my skin, everything would change. That makes sense. And so when you saw me working last night, I have to remember anytime you’re around somebody, they transfer energy or qi or vibration to you. That’s information. And so vibrational information. And that information comes to me, but it’s up to the person to decipher. And that’s where people who are the most astounding healers, the people who really understand and read the room, where you know when somebody has a parasite, you’re like, why do I know? It’s because you’ve set your body up as a great radio tower to receive frequency. You know, like you’ll go to somebody and go, I know that person’s hurting, I know that person has parasites here when I see them. It’s because you pulled, you became the grounding rod for that person, and you can decipher the information. So over the years, what’s really interesting is that if a person came in with like, let’s say, a chronic yeast infection or chronic parasitic infection, you take the information that it transfers, and is it not the best for the practitioner? At times it’s not. But he developed systems to where you can find what points to treat for that condition. And so that’s where you saw me working last night. For instance, like Kim had some hip issues, you don’t want me sharing. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh hip issues. But in the hip, there was a blockage of energy in the hip and cheese, electrical patterns. But that information also contained frequencies of uh very old emotional patterns. So she transferred that to me. I just have a system that can hopefully find out which emotion it is. I’m not like a um, you know, those people that you’re around, they’re just such good healers. I’m just I’m not touting my you know, pat myself on the no. But you know, when those people that can actually pick up and they’ll say, Well, that person has anger or that person has a really bad uh emotional traumatic issue at five years old.

Sam: 30:37

Well, that’s high emotional intelligence as well, and empathy, being able to even pick up on those subtle things, not everyone can do that. Yes.

Dr Motley: 30:43

And you think you you see those people that are so good at it. I I always found that I’m just a guy of consistency. I just do it over time, and I think I’ve gotten a little more proficient at it over the years. But that was the system. And so vibrational frequency medicine, um I mean, it’s about over 20-something years. So you get used to like how of energy feels, and as weird as that may sound to some individuals, you can feel what a pattern feels like. So now I thought it was unusual when people can look at somebody and know how their body feels, but over the years now I can look at somebody and go, I think I know why they feel the way they do. And I always thought that was something that was kind of, you know, unusual. But now I can see people like you, like when you’re intuitive, I’m just thankful that there’s a recognition, and that’s what you guys are doing.

Sam: 31:34

So cool. So this is energy medicine to a degree, right? Yeah.

Dr Motley: 31:39

Yes, and I got it. Yeah, I I used to always sort of get with the term, but people understand when when we talk about this kind of medicine, we say energy medicine, and people go, yeah. Well, yeah, they totally get it.

Sam: 31:52

It’s not woo-woo anymore. Is this is this specific type of medicine you practice? I mean you said now it’s for over 20 years, but is there origin or roots? Is it rooted in like ancient Chinese or is it like homeopathic? Like what’s the roots of what you practice?

Dr Motley: 32:07

I will say that the origin. The the electronic medicine is based at my mentor would say off traditional Chinese medicine or classical medic Chinese medicine uh concepts. And some of them say that comes from Ayurvedic. Um and the idea, like even if you look at a Chinese medicine doll, like we have with acupunc uh acupuncture, um it really is rooted in the concept of that you have all these electrical circuits running through your body 24 hours a day. And so when we do frequency or energetic medicine, it’s just learning where the energy is blocked, at what time of day.

unknown: 32:46

Wow.

Dr Motley: 32:46

And when you find that out, you can decipher quite a bit. Truly, uh the biofields around you, the field of energy around you is very selective who comes in. You only listen to certain people’s frequencies that are able to work through the small pores in your biofield. So what makes it so it’s so selective of you is that if you can find the holes in your biofield where my voice could affect you and we can amplify each other, if you find the correct angle to get into the biofield, when you listen to it, this is like from how they they talk about light therapy, you actually will amplify the signal that gets through the pore. Like if it can fit through the through your biofield, it it means it can amplify tremendously to the person who receives it. So you listening to somebody’s boy like Jeremy’s or something, it’s like I pick up on that. It got through your biofield and it was selective for you. And that create and that’s just how like therapies work. And I and and when you say like we’re all together, we all amplify each other, I’m like, you guys weren’t there by chance. You guys selected each other. And that’s like because you’re all in the same range.

Sam: 33:57

Even just me finding her when I did in her parasite cleanse. I was 13 years deep into a holistic lifestyle, and you know, I had never parasite cleansed.

Kim: 34:06

Which is a miss for everyone. It’s wild. I mean, I’m missing it.

Sam: 34:09

I couldn’t believe it. I I was so on point about everything else, and I did, and hundreds of worms left my body. And I know you know because y’all talked about it on YouTube. Over a hundred left my nose doctor. I blew over a hundred out of my nose. Yeah. So it’s her nose. It’s me meeting her when I was supposed to. And just from meeting her and having the experience I had with removing hundreds of these visible worms from my body, I put every family member, every friend. I’ve put so many people on there. They’ve done it. So it’s like the ripple effect from us going through our own challenges and accidents and healing, then it ripple effects out to everyone we know. And then it’s like each one teach one, and it’s just everybody keeps healing.

Dr Motley: 34:52

Everybody keeps growing.

Sam: 34:53

We are in the beautiful hills behind us. Gorgeous today. We got some sun. We did. Yeah, definitely got some sun. We’re a little sun-kissed, and we’re gonna sleep really well tonight. I’m really excited, which is great because we’re talking about sleep today.

Kim: 35:10

Yes. We’re talking about the sleep and how it affects detoxing and how it affects just you and your mental health. How you show up in life.

Sam: 35:19

Yeah, you need sleep. How many hours is your minimum amount that you can get where you can still show up well in life and have a sharp mind and still be like functioning at a high level? Three to four. What?

Kim: 35:31

You’re a different breed, Kim Rogers. But I don’t like it. So there’s a difference. Can I do it? Absolutely. Do I like it? No. Do I feel not myself and not completely present? Yeah. And then I just kind of want to, the whole time I’m thinking, I want to go to sleep, but I have things I have to do.

Sam: 35:50

So you still will be tired during the day and you won’t be as sharp. Yes. Your brain won’t be working as sharp. So what is your ideal amount of hours that you get that you want to get every night to feel your best and show up optimally in life? Eight. Eight hours. Eight hours. Yeah. When I don’t get enough sleep, it’s like there’s something between me and life all day. It’s like a cloud or kind of like a fogginess, and I’m not all the way present. So I absolutely need sleep.

Kim: 36:18

I listen to frequencies at night with subliminal messages. And it’s kind of cool to do that because not only am I getting them, but my husband’s getting them as well. So I’m rewiring his brain. And I don’t have a lot of time. So of course I want to work my brain while I’m sleeping. Cause that’s really why I had such terrible insomnia. I just felt like there wasn’t enough time in the day to get everything done. I wanted to get done. And it does rewire your subconscious to assist you with your consciousness. I love that. Yeah, it’s really a great biohack that not a lot of people realize. But the mouth tape, um, since starting to do that in the like the last year, it’s been so good for like tonsil stones, um, bad breath.

Sam: 37:03

Nose breathing, because your nose breathing, it forces you to nosebreat, which we do know by now, like there’s a lot of science behind why nose breathing while sleeping is so good. That’s another reason I love the APAP because I wear it over my nose, but there’s some sort of suction pressure happening where it forces my mouth to stay closed, which is why I’m not snoring. Yeah, but I also love frequencies. We use frequencies as well to sleep. Right now I have one that is my absolute favorite. That’s nervous system regulation. Oh, nice. Yeah, it’s a really nice frequency. Nice. Yeah, yeah. But insomnia. So you had insomnia as a teenager. Yes. And now we know several reasons that cause insomnia. So let’s break down some of them.

Kim: 37:46

I even know now that my insomnia from when I was a teenager is because of parasites and Lyme. They’re nocturnal creatures, they’re up all night. They start waking at 7 p.m. and then they’re up. So at 7 p.m., that’s their morning. And especially like knowing that around midnight is their noon, so they’re just getting riled up for the day. And then they want to hang out and eat and do their thing and party, and they’re doing it in you. And so you have insomnia because of it.

Sam: 38:19

So per having parasites in worms is a sign. If you have insomnia, you may have parasites in worms.

Kim: 38:25

Okay. Yes, it’s one of the symptoms and one of the signs of having a parasite.

Sam: 38:29

Got it. So when it comes to parasite cleansing, when I very first was preparing to do my first ParaFy cleanse, I was studying all of the different drainage pathways that we have, right? And so we know the obvious ones, sweating, digestion, we know the lymphatic system. So there’s all of these, like, you know, your big your most common ones. I learned about brain detoxing and how that is a drainage pathway. And so the only time your brain gets to release and dump toxins out of it is during deep sleep. Wow. So you must reach a point of deep sleep during the night and get a good amount for your brain to detox. And that’s a drainage pathway. So prior to doing the ParaFy cleanse, when I learned about that, I was like, oh, so I need to prioritize sleep as well as exercise and sweating and making sure, you know, my digestion is working and all of these things. Like, oh, I also have to be getting deep sleep so that my brain can be detoxing. Today we have such a special guest, incredibly inspiring businesswoman, entrepreneur, award-winning realtor, health and wellness advocate, and an all-around incredible human being, Tammy Dean.

Tammy Dean: 39:48

Um, that’s like a lot to follow. I mean, for you to read off all of my accolades, I’m like, wow, is that me? Yeah. Yes, that is. Yeah. Yes. Thank you so much for I’m so, so thrilled. I’ve been looking forward to this for so long. The wellness warriors.

Kim: 40:04

We’re wellness warriors at this point, really fighting a good fight to help people fully understand their bodies.

Tammy Dean: 40:12

I feel like with society being the way that it is, especially with women, and I think more so now with men than ever, there’s a certain standard that society tells us we have to ascribe by. But when you start to show up for yourself authentically, and that’s been my journey from day one, is going against the system and doing something. In my case, removing my breast implants and going against the system and saying that doesn’t define me anymore. Having big breasts and being super skinny and fake eyelashes and all the things don’t define me anymore. So when you start to own your truth, the right people start to come into your life. Your tribe starts to develop.

Kim: 40:53

What is X-planting? What is breast implant syndrome and why this is so important for other women who may be thinking about it or may are going through it. Or maybe thinking about getting implants. Yeah. Right. Thinking about implants and also going through it.

Tammy Dean: 41:10

What is it? It tell us what it is. So, first, I want to say this before I go into that. There is no judgment here for the woman who has implants right now, or who for the woman who is contemplating getting implants. That is their journey. But I will tell you, I was living the life in Los Angeles 35 years ago. I was a fitness model, uh, fell prey to the whole, you have to look a certain way in order to book work. I said, okay, let me get the skinniest I can ever be. I was probably 6% body fat. I was doing a lot of fitness modeling. And a good friend of mine, he’s not so good friend now, he made a comment to me and said, you know, you would look so much better if you had bigger boobs. And I didn’t think back then, you know, and I’m a confident woman who always speaks my opinion, but I didn’t even think twice about the the weight of what he said to me. And I just said, Oh my gosh, you’re right. Let me go ahead and look into that. So I looked into it, long story short, when I was going into surgery, I remember the surgeon, and God bless that man, he’s no longer in business, rightfully so. Um he said to me, How much do you want me to fill your bags with? Because if we do very little, you’re gonna come back because you’re gonna want more. So I said to him at that point, put as much as you can on my body because I don’t want to come back and go through this again. So he filled up 550 CCs and I was a D. Imagine me as a D. This tiny, tiny, tiny, right? Tiny. Yeah. So I was a D. And from then on, it I what I thought was success ensued. I booked more jobs, I got different attra and different attention from men, not so good attention from women. Then I started realizing, and I said this offline, when I was going through that, I prayed about it and I said, okay, if this is what I’m supposed to do, then show me. And I remember a voice saying, Please don’t do this to me. Oh, and I dishonored it. I dishonored it. And that is probably why now I am hyper-vigilant about honoring who I am now and showing up the way that I show up and honoring other people’s space and their existence when they show up. It was your body that my body was saying to me, please don’t do this to us. Right. And when I was went under, I remember vaguely uh them pushing around on my breast and I was in pain. And then when I woke up, I had these big attachments on my body. And I thought it was great. Oh my gosh, I’m amazing. Look at me. I’m so skinny, I have these big boobs, and I got the attention and this, that, and the other. But no sooner than six months into it, I started getting sick. Whoa. Not knowing that breast implant illness was a thing because back then it wasn’t. Right. What they told you was, or what they failed to tell you was these have a shelf life of 10 years. And whether it’s silicone or saline or both, they’re still toxic that they need to be replaced. By the time I realized they were making me sick and I was a full blown breast implant illness person, it was four years ago, and I was sicker than sick, and they were 34. Years old, never replaced them. Wow. And when I started getting sick, and if you Google breast implant illness, and we’ll talk about this, all the symptoms I had autoimmune markers, skin issues, my eyes were red all the time because I had chemicals leaching out of my eyes. I had neurological issues. I developed weird intolerances, allergies to everything. I couldn’t even drink water without being bloated. I mean, you name it, I was that person. Once I found out what was causing the issue, they did a mammogram. They said one of your implants are leaking. And that’s when I decided this is it. But it was cut, so you couldn’t do anything during cut. But when they pulled it out, there was black mold in one of them. Yeah.

Kim: 44:37

So it wasn’t just leaking what was inside, you guys. It is what’s inside the breast implants was leaking as well internally. And so no matter what you did, no matter which way you looked at it, you were being poisoned from within.

Tammy Dean: 44:52

So here’s the thing. So that the implants themselves are made out of silicone and synthetics. So that’s where the toxins are. So even if the doctor tells you, even today, because they’ve somehow, you know, improved the implants, that they could put I had saline implants, and the doctor said, Don’t worry about it, because we’re comp our bodies are made up of saline anyway. So you’re not going to have any problems. Okay. But it was the encasing that was causing the issues. And imagine if you could have implants put onto you, okay, and over years your body develops what we call a capsule to protect you from the implant. So when you do the explant surgery, in order for it to be effective and successful, they have to do what we call a total explant, which is removing the implant, and a total capsulectomy, which is removing the capsule. Because when you remove those implants, all those toxins are attached to that capsule. That’s where they’re leaching. So when you remove them and you’re detoxing, those toxins no longer have anywhere to attach. So what do they do? They’re coming out of your skin. That’s why the pathways have to be open. That’s why cleanses like your cleanse are so important for women, especially if you’re going through this breast implant illness, whether you’ve removed them or contemplating it, you have to have those drainage pathways open. Because I didn’t. So my skin was one big flare. I was just a hot mess.com for four years.

Sam: 46:12

Oh, even after getting him out of the side.

Tammy Dean: 46:14

But here’s here’s the misconception. When you have them removed, all of the symptoms go away immediately because you’re removing the the implant. The root of the problem. But then the body starts to the true detox kicks in. So I’ve been detoxing for 32 months. This just this year, I turned the corner. Wow. Just this year.

Sam: 46:35

Congratulations.

Kim: 46:36

Yeah, it’s all this year. I think people don’t realize that the body is fighting against it. It’s a foreign object inside of your body. And again, I am not opposed to people doing things to their body. I’ve had a breast reduction. We’ve talked about that offline, where you know, I changed the way I look for actual like reasons for pain because my breasts were so big. But she used to be. You still have to set them on the table. I mean, when you obey, yeah. I mean, she was a big thing.

Tammy Dean: 47:03

My shoulders bothered me and my neck and just oh yeah. I couldn’t wait to get the breast off. I was like, let them free. I was like, I mean, literally, like, oh my God, this feels so much better because they’re so heavy. It was so bad. Make no mistake, breast implant illness is very real. Yeah. And I’ve spoken on so many platforms about this, you guys. I mean, I was get I was ghosted by so many doctors for 15 years. I was in and out of the ER, doctors giving me, you know, prednisone, giving me steroid shots, giving me antibiotics, give me this, give me that. It’s all in your head. No, it’s not. Wow, gaslighting you. Yeah. Coming from Western medicine, you know how that is, right? It’s all in your head.

Kim: 47:43

It’s all in your head. And the thing is, is that it’s literally a physical thing that’s in your body that can be tested for if you have the right doctors to help you test. Yeah. So what did you just have mold in your breast and plants? I had everything. Did you have parasites too?

Tammy Dean: 47:59

Oh my God. I I was the poster child for a parasite cleanse, right? So, as you know, having done the parasite cleanse a few times now, your skin responds so quickly when you’re getting rid of all the toxins in your body. My skin was such a mess. I mean, I had eczemaus conditions, I had dermatitis all the time, my hair was falling out, it was frail. I mean, my eyes were always leaching because chemicals were coming, toxins were coming out of my eyes.

Sam: 48:23

Well, that’s also the mold, right? Yeah.

Tammy Dean: 48:25

And the inflammation in my joints, my whole body. I was just like on fire all the time. I couldn’t regulate it. So when when, and again, you can’t test for it. All they can do is run labs and the labs don’t tell you, right?

Kim: 48:38

And if they don’t know what they’re running, that’s right. If they’re not looking for mold and specific mold, they’re they’re it’s all gonna come back. Oh, you know, white blood cells are a little elevator, EOS, like it’s all gonna say that, but they’re gonna obviously go back to, well, you’re fighting an infection, and there’s an antibiotic.

Sam: 48:54

Something else is going on though. What about having this foreign object? We could also call it a foreign invader. No, it is a foreign object, the body doesn’t know what it is. But what is it about that being in why why does the mold and parasites go to it?

Tammy Dean: 49:08

Like what is that about? I can speak to the mold. So think about a capsule that’s just residing in a warm place. And where does mold grow? Warm, dark. Okay. So this implant is in your body, in a cavity, essentially. Warm, dark, and wet. There you go. So it’s in a cavity, right? A man-made cavity. And they’ve dug out the muscle, they’ve dug out the tissue, and put this implant in, and they sew you back up. So for me, they went through the nipple. So they push this thing in through the nipple, sew it up, and you’ve got this thing growing inside of you. It’s warm, it’s dark, and it’s wet.

Sam: 49:37

Oh, and then it’s foreign. It’s a foreign playground for it.

Tammy Dean: 49:40

And when it’s leaking, it’s a petri dish for it. That’s exactly what it is. It’s a petri dish. And when you get a leak, it’s open.

Kim: 49:47

It’s open. So if you have dogs or if you’re not cleansing your body, where do you think those things are gonna go? That is a perfect living environment for them. One, it’s their own biofilm, their own ecosystem. That’s right. So they and then they love to live together. And a lot of people that had mold in them should get tested for Lyme. Yes, because they’re finding the studies showing that people that have mold in their body also will test positive for Lyme. Absolutely. And so those three things live together.

Sam: 50:15

Today we are discussing a topic we’ve been wanting to talk about for quite a while: reproductive systems and reproductive health.

Kim: 50:24

This all started with me because of endometriosis. Yeah. And so it really has a huge part of why I’m so vocal about all of this. 200 million women worldwide have endometriosis diagnosed. And I’m, you know, statistically, I like to always throw out numbers, but always check your own facts. And so six to eight times more than like diabetes and Alzheimer’s, and there’s very minimal studies that are done. And, you know, they always say there’s no cure. And so you kind of go through the the medic, Western medicine world when it comes to endometriosis. You do everything they say because you’re in so much pain. And I always say what a crazy disease it is, because it can cause infertility, which is what happened with me. I was on Lupron twice, which is a form of chemo. I had been on depot for 10 years. I was then put on pills. And so if you add all of that up, it was my whole life, basically. It’s really what took me to being chronically ill to the to the ground, basically, is you know, that disease, even when you have a hysterectomy, they come back and say, Oh, well, that should cure it. No, it doesn’t, because it’s all over your body. And when I would go to the doctor and I would say, Listen, I got a spot on my lung, you know, they would do MRIs and CTs. There was a spot on my liver, spot on my kidneys. They’re like, There’s no way endometriosis is all over your body. Well, it was, and they say it all the time now, but it was a thing back then where it was so new that they wouldn’t come out and be like, it can spread all over your body. They just didn’t want to admit it because they don’t really know how to help you.

Sam: 52:07

In your opinion, what causes endometriosis?

Kim: 52:11

Well, I mean, there’s a lot of factors, but for me personally, what my issues were were one was shistomycin, which is a parasite that goes inside of your reproductive systems and your bladder, and it’s from freshwater or snails. And so I read a lot of different studies, specifically after I went viral over worms, that there are a lot of unnecessary hysterectomies. And this is on the NIH, the National Institute for Health, and that’s a governmental site that says that shishamycin mirrors different diseases that can cause you to need an unnecessary hysterectomy. And I feel like in that moment, it was about a month into after I went viral in July of 2021, around August is when I started digging in a little bit more. And I really just had to grieve, honestly, in those moments, right? And I thought, oh my gosh, I can’t even believe that I’m reading this and I come from this world. And how did I not know this? And why didn’t I look at this before I went and did this life-altering surgery? I figured out in July of 2021 when I went viral over the parasite cleansing that I had pinworms, round worm, crypto, chronic Lyme, mold exposure to a mold illness status since I was born into mold. You guys, if you’ve watched anything I’ve ever said, I literally have gone down this rabbit hole of my genes, my mom’s genes. I was born into mold. Like we figured out that where my dad was where my parents were living when I was born had mold. So like I’ve really gone down this huge wormhole of everything. But I look back now and I realize that all of these things contributed. I think the hardest part is how personally it affects your sex life. It affects even sometimes when I would wipe, I would bleed. So I mean, there were so many aspects of what this particular disease did to me. And then unfortunately, because I had so many surgeries, I then pivoted into another disease called atomiosis, which is a scar tissue disease. And I actually took that scar tissue disease and I realized about turkey’s tail, right? So that is how that disease and me knowing about turkey tail mushroom, which is in one of our kits, the LymF kit, but I take it at five grams a day because it breaks the scar tissue down, which the endometriosis was attaching itself to. And so at one point, my body, because all my organs were shifted up to the side, because it was just encased in scar tissue. So it was like this this uh this, you know, pocket that all my organs would set up onto the side of it.

Speaker 1: 55:03

Wow.

Kim: 55:04

I mean, it was real rough, man. And some of my surgeries were brutal. The 2019 surgery was so brutal, that’s when my doctor said, You can’t do this anymore, Kim. Like this is it, no more. You can’t have any more surgeries.

Sam: 55:16

13 would 13 surgeries, yeah. That’s enough anyway. Yeah. Goodness gracious. So one is enough. What could have been done differently to prevent you from going down a road of such trauma, suffering, medical neglect, everything that you had to endure, if you knew something different back then that could prevent it, what would it be? Oh, I definitely would be cleansing.

Kim: 55:37

Cleansing. I 100% would be ParaFy cleansing. If I would have had the option 20 years ago, again, 47, had my hysterectomy when I was 29. If I would have been given this option to do any antiparasitics, to do any of the herbs that I put in the ParaFy kit, to do the LymF kit, like any of my options that I have now in my in front of me, I 100% would have done it.

Sam: 56:05

I love that you’re bringing ParaFy into this because personally, I, you know, ever since I was a teenager, I’ve had rough cycles. Like just for me, a lot of PMS symptoms. Um, I’ve researched PMDD. I’ve never got diagnosed with it, but I am like I’ve I pretty much can self-diagnose that. It’s all the emotional, mental stuff that happens to me with the hormone fluctuations and all of that. So I had really also a lot of like, you know, cramps and a lot of the physical pain and stuff like that. I experienced that since I was a teenager. And and then it got to a point where when hormones would get out of balance, you know, in my adult years, I mean, it would take up like two weeks out of my month of suffering. So, like, we’re talking two weeks of the mental and emotional changes and the mood and the low, the low energy, and the fatigue, and the physical pain, and the boobs hurting so bad, and all these things, right? The first time I ever did ParaFy, it made my next coming cycles so much simpler, smoother, and way more of a pleasant process. I remember like all of a sudden one day I just started bleeding and I went, oh my gosh, I just started, I had no lead up to this. Like, usually it’s like this whole thing, it’s coming. I have like a whole pre-experience every month with it. Well, what ParaFy Cleansing regularly has done for me is it’s shortened that window. Yeah. So now it’s like, I would say like the worst of it is really just down to a few days. It’s like a couple days leading up, maybe the first day of, but it has shortened that window significantly what used to take up half of every month, which is half of my life.

Kim: 57:53

I really do know that there were so many other things involved. Sure. You really need to look closely at your surgery videos. Okay. So I looked at surgery videos because they would give you everything.

Sam: 58:03

Hold on, wait, wait. They filmed your surgeries and you could watch them?

Kim: 58:07

So many.

Sam: 58:08

I don’t even know that’s a thing.

Kim: 58:09

Oh, all of the surgery videos. I have pictures of my surgeries. I literally would scroll in, I would spread my screen, and I would look at these weird things that I would say, this kind of looks like a worm. This is a little oblique. That doesn’t look like scar tissue. And you guys know I come from Western medicine. So you don’t question, right? I questioned all the time. I questioned all the time. I asked them so many times. I had to change surgeons because I questioned so much.

Sam: 58:44

Did you ever say to a doctor or a surgeon or any medical professional that looks like a worm?

Kim: 58:50

Yes, what did they say? Multiple times. I can I am not gonna name the names, but I have goosebumps multiple times. There’s no way you have worms, Kim. And I’m like, okay, no problem, you know, because worms are a frequency, they can control your mind a little, a lot, they can tell you what to eat, but they can also tell you that you’re wrong. That there’s no way you have worms. And I know for a fact they can do that because I had some come out my face, and that’s what made me go so viral. Is I used to have like this weird red thing, and when I squeezed it once, things came out.

Sam: 59:26

So hold on really quick. Moving. Are you saying that worms gaslight you too?

Kim: 59:30

A hundred percent.

Sam: 59:32

Worms gaslight you to make you think you don’t have worms so that you keep feeding them and they can survive. News flash. This is big news, everyone. Worms are gaslighters. We are here tonight to talk about beauty and health.

Kim: 59:47

All of these things affect us and to understand that what you put on your skin gets absorbed into your body and gets into your bloodstream.

Sam: 59:57

Let’s start off with skin. Okay. Because it’s such a huge topic. If you’ve been following along through season one, I’ve shared several times that skin has been a challenge for me for over a decade now. Acne that gets really out of control to a degree, and then and then it’s time to go into emergency mode and figure out what’s going on and then fix it and correct it. And then it gets good and balanced out, and then all of a sudden it’ll start revving up again. And every single time I’ve reached that point with my skin, it’s been my body just warning me and telling me, hey, something’s out of balance in here, something’s off on the inside that needs to be addressed and healed. I’m grateful for that because it’s like telling you.

Kim: 1:00:42

It’s my body telling me. You need to dig a little deeper, you need to research. It’s more than you think you know, but I’m here because I want to be healed. I mean, that’s the part that we all keep forgetting at times, is that our bodies just want to heal themselves. Yeah.

Sam: 1:01:00

Right. The skin stuff, whether it’s acne or rosacea or eczema or rashes, psoriasis, any of that.

Kim: 1:01:07

Our body is alerting us.

Sam: 1:01:08

It’s not a curse.

Kim: 1:01:10

I’ve always been very careful with my skin. I’ve actually always carried a filter because I was allergic to chlorine. And I would immediately wash my face with tap water and I would go bright red in a rash. So not everything is always internal, but it is your body warning you. And by the time it reaches your outward appearance, something is going on. Now what? Solution mode. Let’s get to it, right? And honestly, I was just waiting. I think that it comes to a point where I mean, I definitely like to tell people how to help their health. That’s kind of the healer in me. But as soon as you came to me and said, okay, what do we do? I’m like, well, first off, this is the type of things you should wash your face with. This is how you should use this. And I don’t wash my face with tap water. I only wash my face with bottled water when we’re traveling and filtered water. And so that was really a first step for us to really kind of talk about that for you. And then just products. Yeah. I mean, I don’t use anything that has heavy metals, no titanium dioxide. Any titanium dioxide as heavy metal is going to get underneath your skin and it’s going to cause issues. Yeah. And it isn’t something you can just all of a sudden change. It is a slow process. But once you get energized like you were, it’s so much easier for you to see what you need to do. We kind of talked about the fact that we say 80-20. I say it often, but really I say it because you can then have a few toxic things when you’re constantly being conscientious on your body, right? Like you color your hair and you know, you do wear some makeup that might not be great. However, you also can then pivot on this side of things where it balances out. But when you’re in the thick of it, like we’re in the thick of it, you don’t get that 80-20. It has to be waiting for it 100% to get your balance right. And then you can go, okay, I can I can do this.

Sam: 1:03:12

Now I can maintain.

Kim: 1:03:13

You have to maintain first in order to do the AD20.

Sam: 1:03:16

You have to go extreme first in order to get to the maintain phase because you have to go into heal mode. Like even a little bit of the poison in the heel mode can like take you out.

Kim: 1:03:29

As you start to heal that part of your body that you took all those supplements for, it doesn’t need that help anymore. And then your body starts to want to focus on what else it needs help with, right? You got your hormones stabilized. Oh, well, now your body is like, oh, we’re gonna give all this energy over to the fact that your sugar is not regulating. So it just shows that like your body literally is always changing, always evolving, and you you just keep moving with it.

Sam: 1:03:56

Well said. Well said. Because we end up being in a different space and season, right? This whole thing is proven to me why testing is everything. It is really important to test. It’s so important. And I loved getting to cross-reference. And there’s freedom and inspiration and motivation and hope in not guessing.

Kim: 1:04:18

When I finally get that answer after sitting for so many years, in my case, it was years, right? It was like as soon as I got my hands on the Lyme test. When I was able to find someone who could navigate where to get tested for Lyme, I always wanted to. And as soon as I could, I just went ham. I mean, I can tell you every single thing, bacteria, virus that’s in my body, because I got every test. Right. Every test. I found out I had pandas. I found out I had autoimmune encephalitis. I, you know, I mean, it was just like, keep going because those tests are gonna be able to tell you things that you might not have known and you just thought it was you. And I feel like in the day and age that we’re living in right now, we’re so easy to blame ourselves that we did this and that this is just the way we have to be. And it’s just not the way we have to be. Really, I mean, I’m so grateful that I’ve been able to be on your journey, but I’ve also been really grateful that you’ve been on mine, especially at the beginning of this year, because I was not in a good space. Environmental toxins can cause you to not be you. Okay, so here’s recover.

Sam: 1:05:32

Yeah.

Kim: 1:05:32

This is what I used right when I started um figuring out I had mold poisoning. I lost half of my hair. When I had mold poisoning, my skin was a wreck, which again, this was the second indication that something was going on because I had rashes and my eyes swelled shut. And pumpkin seeds just really help with your hair. It’s also an antiparasitic. Um, milk thistle helps boost your liver. And then shiitake and oyster, they’re just really great for the hair, skin, and nails.

Sam: 1:06:00

So the Recover tincture from RogersHood is a beauty hack.

Kim: 1:06:03

Yeah, it’s a beauty hack. And then when you pair it with sustain, sustain has peppermint, which helps with the small intestine. And that the peppermint and the organ grape root, organ grape root helps with inflammation and usnia helps push out bacteria. And I also use it because it’s candida and candida, um, anti-candida, and it can actually cause issues with your face when you have candida.

Speaker 1: 1:06:29

Oh wow. So okay, good to know.

Kim: 1:06:31

If you have eczema or psoriasis, I really do recommend doing sustain and recover together consistently. Awesome. Like I do sustain every day, like it’s my go-to. Oh, we love sustain. Yeah, sustain’s my favorite.

Sam: 1:06:45

LymF, I love LymF. You know what I love about these too is that I don’t need a chaser or water.

Kim: 1:06:51

Yeah, they’re pretty good.

Sam: 1:06:52

You can throw these in your purse or your bag and take them by themselves if you need to. Like they’re they do not have a bad taste. They taste good to you.

Kim: 1:06:59

I think they taste really good. They do. ParaFy spicy. I mean, the bitters of wormwood and garlic, and but and then Moldeze it, I think Moldeze is really good. Um, that’s our other one. It’s a mitochondria boost. The more you cleanse your insides, the smoother your skin’s gonna be, the better you’re gonna feel. These things aren’t just, you know, for biohacking. They’re literally what we use every day to keep ourselves healthy.

Sam: 1:07:26

Yeah. Maintenance.

Kim: 1:07:27

Yeah.

Sam: 1:07:28

Preventative and maintenance. I’m so grateful for all the tools. I’m so grateful for all the ones you’ve put me on to and the products and just everything, and for you being here with me on this phase of this healing journey of mine, of this new awakening to up-leveling to a whole new level of health. I was telling Kim off camera, I thought it was just so cool. The the timing is so divine and aligned that it’s like happened like right after season one and right before season two. So I could come into season two hot with so much new information to share and new tools and things that I’ve discovered that have really helped me and are continuing to help me heal. It’s a process and I’m in it now, and I’m balancing and correcting and healing and replenishing and you know, working on it honestly from a whole perspective. W H O L holistic, because it’s not just physical and it’s not just about the physical body, but it’s also about the emotional and the mental and the nervous system and the spiritual. It’s just, it’s our health is a whole. Um, and to approach it that way is really where it’s at. So really hope that something, anything that we share today, speaks to any of you and can help you in your life, help you with your health and your well-being, and just to approach your beauty um products from a cleaner standpoint so that you don’t overload your body with those toxins, environmental toxins, and you don’t burden yourself, but you can be as clean and healthy as possible and feel as good as you as you can.

Kim: 1:09:01

And please let us know if you guys have any questions in the comments so that we can tag people and let you really know where to go with all of this. I know um my link tree is always full of things because that’s the easiest way for you guys to find information, but we’re also here to help guide you on what your journey is and what we really do like as far as products go.

Sam: 1:09:27

Oh, yeah. If you have any questions, please drop them in the comments. We’re happy to share, but we do not gatekeep anything. We’re here to share any and everything to help you and your help. Please remember to like and subscribe, share with your loved ones. You just never know who needs this information and whose life it may change. We love you guys. Thank you for your support and for tuning in. Until next time. Thanks, guys.