December 10, 2025

Season 2 Ep 4: Tuning The Body’s Frequency To Heal | With Dr. Motley

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Welcome to What’s Eating U?! 🍄 Where we are serving you all the health & wellness information and healing knowledge that you’re hungry for!

This week on What’s Eating U?! —

  • 👨🏻‍⚕️ Dr. Chris Motley offers us his expertise & insights on how to tune our bodies to vibrate in their natural state — the frequency of healing
  • 🌊 How emotions, infections & stress can put us out of flow (and how to get back in)
  • 🪱 Worms & parasites lower our frequency and why cleansing with ParaFy helps us stay in tune with health
  • 🧬 Symptoms are NOT random mistakes — they are signals & signs from our body & biofield
  • 🗣️ How to understand the language of our bodies and hear them when they speak
  • ⚡️ Microcurrent, sound & light restore the body’s natural resonance
  • 💧 Using tinctures like LymF help support the body through frequency, drainage, and gentle detox
  • 🌟 What energy medicine is and how we can use it

💎 This episode is FULL of priceless gems that will help YOU step into your healthiest, most aligned & in-flow version of your self yet!

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Sam: 0:00

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome back to What’s Eating You. We are your hosts, Sam. And Kim. And we are serving you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you’re hungry for. Please remember to like, subscribe, share with your loved ones. You just never know who this information can help. Today we have a very special guest. Very special guest, a healer, a medicine man, a doctor, and Kim’s very dear friend, none other than Dr. Chris Motley, DC. Welcome to the show. Dr. Motley, thank you for being on What’s Eating You.

Dr Motley: 0:49

Oh, I’m grateful and I’m thankful and I’m really excited.

Kim: 0:52

We’re so excited to have you.

Dr Motley: 0:54

I can’t believe that you guys are in Nashville at this amazing place where you can see eagles. And um, I really appreciate it because you guys are really blowing up and just moving along and putting the hard work in. So I really am thankful for this, though. Seriously. It’s our honor. I love it too. You guys are just doing such good work.

Sam: 1:10

Thanks, man. Thank you. It’s our honor and pleasure. Yeah, we’re so stoked to have you. I mean, we really want to dive into your story, you know. Kim, anything specific you want to know? You want to add? Yeah. Well, thank you for being here.

Kim: 1:23

Thank you for being part of our tribe. And our community loves you and just they really do. They really do. That’s true, yeah. They really do. They love you. It’s you’re just such a a wisdom, and you’re the way you explain things is so amazing. So please keep doing what you’re doing. Thank you. And just keep showing the world what doctors and healers look like because it’s important for us, right? It’s important for us to see this.

Dr Motley: 1:52

I appreciate it so much. It’s I think that’s what we were talking about before about taking some of the stigma and some of the fear of individuals or doctors or going to a professional or any type of profession um that could do in healing because we’re getting we’re in a realm where they have made us believe that you you don’t ask doctors questions. Yeah. And I think that has to be kind of pushed aside so you can actually know you can ask people questions and get some answers, hopefully. Yeah. So this is great.

Kim: 2:21

I’m glad you’re showing it to the world. Oh.

Sam: 2:24

Yeah.

Dr Motley: 2:24

I’m glad they like me though. They do.

Sam: 2:26

We’ll get answers from reliable, capable people, you know. And so for you to be a deep well of wisdom, we got to witness you firsthand in your genius. It was, it was quite a sight to watch you work, and you can tell that you are the real deal. And we all just today were talking about that, and it was it was really something to see you work on Kim last night. It was really cool. We all want to know what is this thing on your hip that you use and how does it work? Yeah.

Dr Motley: 2:54

Okay. Definitely. Um some when we talk about frequency medicine and using music and tones to help heal individuals. My mentor is Dr. Dowdy, and he was out of Wichita, and he wanted to use electronic or electric medicine more than he wanted to use nutritional medicine. I can’t speak for him. He’s like he’s like a surrogate dad, he’s just like my dad, you know. Basically, in a nutshell, is if you can actually heal the tissue or help the body heal through using vibration, sound, light, or some form of frequency. So what he would do, just a quick backdrop, is that your muscles or your ligaments all vibrate at a certain healthy range, and if they fall out of that range, they can either get very cramped or they can actually lose strength or they can actually get diseased. And there’s a lot of brilliant doctors that have done that before. And he found out that he could take microcurrent machines and put these little 10 unit tens unit stickers on you and run current through the muscles and bring it back to a healthy level. And he would see things which I can’t really mention on this about like going into things going into remission that would normally not be going into remission, uh, eventually helping people that had chronic parasites, yeast, mold, viruses, heal up because when the infection is so deep and you take some things and you’re like, well, there’s something still in my shoulder, he realized that he had to put a vibration in that joint to help pull that infection out. So when he started to use that, he I learned from him, and he would have people on tables, like four or five tables, and had these current machines set up right near their vagus nerve, and he says, You can run the current through the brainstem, and if you cause the brainstem to have a vibration at a certain rate, it’ll send a vibration through the rest of the body from your brainstem. So he would be helping people with anxiety, he’d help people with emotional issues. He wouldn’t try to, he’s not really that, he’s not a really emotional guy, but people have had chronic infections. So all that to say, when I started to learn, he he developed a device that is similar to what we call a toughness instrument. So bear with me, I know it’s a lot to take in. But in a nutshell, if I use this small device, and I should have brought it over here, but basically it’s a small device that can pick up on the vibration and energy from these two or anybody you’re working on. So with Kim, if you guys see the video, if I ever put my hand on Kim and she will automatically transfer energy to me. And that happens to everybody out there. Sam does it with Kim, and vice versa. It’s the same thing when you’re around somebody and you’ll feel your hair stand on in, or it’s the same feeling you get when somebody’s vibration patterns are not congruent with yours and you feel not comfortable around them.

Sam: 5:44

A clash, yeah.

Dr Motley: 5:45

Yeah, you know that there’s they call it the out-of-phase vibrational patterns, like you have reversed flipped vibrations with somebody. And so he developed a device and he found out that through his investigation that if I touched a part that was blocked of energy, you would essentially transfer the energy to me at that area. And my body, my skin, everything would change the literally electricity in my body will change because I found the blockage in you. That makes sense. And so when you saw me working last night, I have to remember anytime you’re around somebody, they transfer energy or qi or vibration to you. That’s information. And so vibrational information. And that information comes to me, but it’s up to the person to decipher. And that’s where people who are the most astounding healers, the people who really understand and read the room, where you know when somebody has a parasite, you’re like, why do I know? It’s because you’ve set your body up as a great radio tower to receive frequency. You know, like you’ll go to somebody and go, I know that person’s hurting, I know that person has parasites here when I see them. It’s because you pulled, you became the grounding rod for that person, and you can decipher the information. So over the years, what’s really interesting is that if a person came in with like, let’s say, a chronic yeast infection or chronic parasitic infection, you take the information that it transfers, and is it not the best for the practitioner? At times it’s not. But he developed systems to where you can find what points to treat for that condition. And so that’s where you saw me working last night. For instance, like shim had some hip issues, you don’t want me sharing. Yeah, yeah. Uh hip issues. But in the hip, there was a blockage of energy in the hip and qi, it’s electrical patterns. But that information also contained frequencies of uh very old emotional patterns. So she transferred that to me. I just have a system that can hopefully find out which emotion it is. I’m not like a um, you know, those people that you’re around, they’re just such good healers. I’m just I’m not touting my you know, popping myself on the bottom. No. But you know, when those people that can actually pick up and they’ll say, Oh, that person has anger or that person has a really bad uh emotional traumatic issue at five years old.

Sam: 8:06

Well, that’s high emotional intelligence as well, and empathy, being able to even pick up on those subtle things, not everyone can do that.

Dr Motley: 8:12

Yes, and you think you you see those people that are so good at it. I I always found that I’m just a guy of consistency. I just do it over time, and I think I’ve gotten a little more proficient at it over the years. But that was the system, and so vibrational frequency medicine. Um I mean, it’s about over 20-something years. So you get used to like how of energy feels, and as weird as that may sound to some individuals, you can feel what a pattern feels like. So now I thought it was unusual when people can look at somebody and know how their body feels, but over the years now I can look at somebody and go, I think I know why they feel the way they do. And I always thought that was something that was kind of, you know, unusual. But now I can see people like you, like when you’re intuitive, I’m just thankful that the there’s a recognition, and that’s what you guys are doing.

Sam: 9:04

So cool. So this is energy medicine to a degree, right?

Dr Motley: 9:08

Yeah, yes, and I guess sort of get with the term, but people understand when when we talk about this kind of medicine, we say energy medicine, and people go, yeah. Well, yeah, they totally get it.

Sam: 9:22

It’s not woo-woo anymore. Is this is this specific type of medicine you practice? And we know you said now it’s for over 20 years, but is there origin or roots? Is it rooted in like ancient Chinese or is it like homeopathic? Like, what’s the roots of what you practice?

Dr Motley: 9:37

I will say that the origin. The the electronic medicine what is based at my mentor would say off traditional Chinese medicine or classical medic Chinese medicine uh concepts, and some of them say that comes from Ayurvedic. Um and the idea, like even if you look at a Chinese medicine doll, like we have with acupunc uh acupuncture, um it really is rooted in the concept of that you have all these electrical circuits running through your body 24 hours a day. And so when we do frequency or energetic medicine, it’s just learning where the energy is blocked, at what time of day. And when you find that out, you can decipher quite a bit. For instance, and I don’t want to get away from the conversation, but if you said something to me like, um, I get up every single morning at 2 15 a.m. And every time I get up, I look and it’s 2 15 a.m. And most of you guys out there who are learned learned it in some acupuncture or something like that, you’ll go, Oh, I know what that is.

Sam: 10:36

There’s an organ that’s correlated with that time. Completely.

Dr Motley: 10:38

And then you’ll then you can say, well, what’s the other option? Like, do you have bowel movements that float on top of the water? Oh yes, I have that. I was like, do you feel nauseous when you Yes. So then you go into the fact, like it could be a gallbladder or liver.

Sam: 10:50

Puzzle pieces.

Dr Motley: 10:51

Puzzle pieces. So you can decipher the electrical patterns, but the beautiful thing about Chinese medicine and frequency medicine is you just get used to the pattern so much that you don’t necessarily have to really test anybody in the sense because you can listen to what they tell you.

Sam: 11:08

So you’re just listening to the body.

Dr Motley: 11:10

That’s it.

Sam: 11:11

And you’re using tools and devices to do so and skill and time and experience to do so, but you’re listening to the body.

Dr Motley: 11:17

It truly is. And I think that’s the when you listen, I think that there are such great uh practitioners out there, they do it without even thinking about it. They know how to feel that we call it transposition, the transpose an energy and they know how it feels. I use my device because it’s like my little safety net. And I’m just I’m a guy of pattern. So exactly. And you just have to learn how to listen to the to the language of it. It’s up to you as a practitioner to see how you configure the response, like how you fix. Decipher it, decipher it’s a language. Like you guys will say, let’s put the tincture to it. Yep. Whereas I’d say, like, let me just rub and get the joint fixed up for Kim and make her squirm all over the table. It’s a different way.

Sam: 11:56

Well, man, you you started off telling her, okay, you know, hold, hold, uh, resist me pushing your leg down. And when they started, she actually had like almost no strength in that leg, your ability to resist you, and you just push it straight down, but the other leg she totally could resist. And by the end of the treatment of him working on her, she could totally resist on that leg. So you could see you unblocked whatever was blocked. And so, you know, I’m a musician, and so everything you said, I just keep hearing like the body’s an instrument, it is, and you’re like helping tune it. That’s exactly because it gets out of tune.

Dr Motley: 12:30

That you I don’t you could do the whole podcast just from that. You did a great job. Like it I think it’s really fun though when we look at the body as like a big uh I don’t just say guitar, but that’s what interests me because I play a little bit of instruments, you know, and um when they talk about fine-tuning the body, that’s what my mentor mentor used to always say you gotta fine-tune it. And um most people when when you think about, let’s say when you’re young and some trauma happened to you or you had an injury, you just gotta think of it somebody coming over to your guitar and just tuning down your string and you never tuned it back up. And you everything’s gonna sound the wrong note, doesn’t sound like it’s in the right key in life. And I think it’s really do you guys I’m at I think it’s really unusual that whenever something gets out of tune in your body, you project that sound to people and things around you. So you eventually will um attract the same note as you’re projecting, which will be something that’s off tune. And I and I to me when we talk about energy medicine, it’s not only like learning how to listen, but how it feels. Because you know, when you’re around in a big crowd at a concert, you’re like, man, this feels great. And you feel like that encouraging the heart, encouraging your body. But there’s times when you go to a concert and your heart and your lungs and everything feels horrible. The frequency, the frequency of it, because you got into a range that’s not good for your organs. It’s the same with people. So I think the music of life. I always I used to always tell myself that it’s the music of life.

Sam: 14:00

Yeah, yeah. We’re all walking around uh, you know, with our own individual unique soul frequency, I think. And so it’s like I have my own unique one and no one else has mine. Yeah, and she has hers and you have yours. And I think there’s other humans in life who when you come into contact with them, you harmonize. Yeah. And like we instantly harmonize. I know when y’all met, you did. So the free your frequencies harmonize, and then there’s people you meet, and it’s like two notes next to each other on a piano, and unless you really like jazz, uh, you’re you’re totally clashing and it’s like clashing. And but it’s not that their frequency isn’t just as important and necessary because I feel like every single living thing on the planet in this realm has a frequency to contribute to the one song, the universe. So it’s we all contribute our individual unique frequency to the one song. So even if you don’t vibe with me, you’re still just as valid here and important because you’re contributing to the whole song. You know what I’m saying?

Dr Motley: 15:00

I’m telling you, that is I’m thinking about that. That’s a great thing.

Sam: 15:04

But you but your work is helping us tune ours because we get a little out of tune. Now, are we really putting out the our real genuine authentic frequency? Yes, no, and so if we’re ill or we’re off balance or we’re, you know, out of tune, we need people like you. We need healers and we need energy workers and fine tuners that speak the language of the body that can help us tune to get into our flow. So we’re living life in our authentic frequency. Yeah. And then also, you know, to really be in harmony with others. Cause like you said, you could attract the wrong one if you if you’re giving out the wrong one.

Dr Motley: 15:39

I mean, do you guys have the have you ever had those experiences in life where you put a day?

Sam: 15:43

Uh yeah. Yeah. Totally. Or even like in a day. In a day, you’ll wake up in a mood or like, you know, your energy’s off that day, and you’re just like, oh, and then you keep attracting like more stuff goes wrong in that day in the day.

Kim: 15:54

And then you’re off balance, and then you’re compensating, so you’re trying to overcompensate and then compensate. Yeah, and then and then that’s damaging other parts of your frequency. There’s just no flow. Your flow, your flow is out. And then what do you do after that? You’re trying to then compensate for it while you’re trying to get back into the flow. Yeah. Sometimes I just go back to bed and try again. Yeah.

Dr Motley: 16:17

I like No, that’s a really good point when you say you just go back to bed and flow. I mean, truly, it’s like the resets is life. And I I really love the way you put it and how you say that um when you’re like two notes like right beside on the piano. And I think over the years though, too, I think everybody’s listening. When you work with individuals over the years, you’ll see that not just couples, but you’ll see individuals that don’t mean to, but they’ll repeat certain patterns.

Sam: 16:45

Friends, business partners.

Dr Motley: 16:47

Every time. And they are in the same boat. And they’ll just all they’ll do is they’ll change like position of life. Like I’m just now I’m not in co school anymore, but I’m at a job. But the same patterns keep have cyclical energy to them. And uh when they’re out of tune, and and it’s beautiful how you said it, whenever somebody actually finds their authentic frequency, um, it’s really like they just start to tune back up. And it and I think the the experiences of life are what cause you to like make the minor adjustments. Oh, that’s good. I think that that when you think about all the minutiae though, like that’s the hardest part is that when people are in this life, you that it is important to have your tribe around you. And I think it’s probably one of the biggest keys though. It is it it has to be.

Sam: 17:27

We track it on our aura rings when we’re talking about. Yeah, yeah, we do our stressed both of us. If we’re good for each other’s nervous system, yeah. We know that when we’re around each other, we go into rest and restore it and relax.

Dr Motley: 17:38

Really?

Sam: 17:38

Yeah. So finding your people it’s so important. You know, because it’s so important.

Kim: 17:42

I mean, come on. It’s so important. And it’s crazy. I think that just coming from the woods, right, where we were there for years, to then developing the tribe around me and being really particular and making sure our notes played well together because when you’re living in your purpose, that is the most important thing. And you do have a frequency when you’re in your purpose. That’s right. So and it’s important to know what the frequency feels like with other people and your purpose. That’s right.

Sam: 18:13

Wow, we touched on this last night, not even knowing we’d be talking about it today. But when we were in the living room on the couch, we were talking about how when two or more people come together with the same frequency or or frequencies that harmonize together. Yeah, that’s true. We’re amplifying our energy and message that we’re putting out, or or song, or performance, or energy vibe, mess, whatever you want to say. But like we’re coming together, and now there’s like three, so it’s even more potent and powerful. And we’re amplifying because we’re all coming together, like, you know.

Dr Motley: 18:43

When they come together, I I one of the coolest things is like when you amplify like signals. Um one of the things about like homeopathy that I love is that let’s say you get a homeopathic remedy and you have the frequency, the set frequency, and what makes it stronger, like she just you guys just said it is they call it percuss. So you take a homeopathic bionule, and it is very important that you percuss the remedy to a certain level to amplify. So the more times you shake it or tap it amplifies the signal. So you have a certain frequency, but the more you shake it up, the stronger it gets. So it’s very important when you talk about being around each other when your voices actually are in the same wavelength, because you’ll amplify. So it and this is uh how important it gets, like in energy medicine. Like you know, people go to red box or um infrared uh saunas and red light therapy. Truly the biofields around you, the field of energy around you is very selective who comes in. You only listen to certain people’s frequencies that are able to work through the small pores in your biofield. So what makes it so it’s so selective of you is that if you can find the Holes in your biofield where my voice could affect you and we can amplify each other. If you find the correct angle to get into the biofield, when you listen to it, this is like from how they they talk about light therapy, you actually will amplify the signal that gets through the pore. Like if it can fit through the through your biofield, it it means it can amplify tremendously to the person who receives it. So you listening to somebody like Jeremy’s or something, it’s like I pick up on that. It got through your biofield and it was selective for you. And that create and that’s just like like therapies work. And I and and when you say like we’re all together, we all amplify each other, I’m like, you guys weren’t there by chance. You guys selected each other. And that’s like because you were all in the same range.

Kim: 20:45

Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh we oh we know we attract.

Sam: 20:49

It was like magnets like pulling each other to each other through time and say so. Even before we ever even heard or knew each other existed, we were already doing, and I think that’s some soul, soul level. Truly. Yeah. But um God, this is so mind-blowing to me. So you’ve now mentioned homeopathic, yeah, yeah. Chinese, ancient Chinese, energy, frequency. So you practice all of these things. I mean, I know beforehand Kim was so curious to know. So go ahead and ask him.

Kim: 21:14

What made you get into all of this, Motley? Dr. Motley. Like I want to know. Yeah, I want to know your journey into becoming this special doctor that you are.

Dr Motley: 21:26

Oh, thank you. You’re welcome.

Kim: 21:28

You are special.

Dr Motley: 21:29

No, I appreciate it. No, I I think I think um that uh when I was younger, I think it was experience. So there’s two things I’ll cut to the chase. My mom, one of the biggest things is my mom’s Korean and she has Chinese blood in her too. And um her relatives, we apparently we have old cousins, like distant, second, third removed, and all that, that were in the hills of Korea that used to do herbals.

Sam: 21:55

It’s in your blood. It’s in your DNA.

Dr Motley: 21:57

Yeah, I don’t I don’t know them. Like my mom thought they were crazy. And she like would say that, but she said my grandfather and my great grandfather would be doing like Tai Chi and Jigong, um, and because they came from uh Shanghai. Like there’s certain problems in China because they had the opium wars, so they moved into Korea to escape it, but they had some herbalists in their field. So I think possibly like why that I felt comfortable. The flip side was I thought I’d either wanted to be a jet pilot or a sketch artist because I always wanted to copy my brother and um or do something in that field. But when I started to think about caring for people, what the one thing was my dad was supposed to have uh back surgery and he was a military guy, and he went and saw a chiropractor, and he didn’t have to have back surgery anymore. But that stuck in me because then also he told my brother to go to him, and my brother would breathe through his mouth. He had dust allergies. He said, Don’t worry about getting him shots and getting because he would do the nasal sprays on the shots. He said, Don’t worry about doing that. You just need to get his neck and his neurology fixed. Did it, and my brother started breathing, breathing through his nose.

Sam: 23:04

Wow.

Dr Motley: 23:04

Then that’s pretty profound for a kid. Fast forward though, I wouldn’t go through, but like I finally decided I did when I got through school, I just I could always make my hands heat up. I could always make my hands real hot. And my friends thought it was really interesting. And I’m like, I don’t know. I can’t, I don’t know why, but I didn’t find out about my distant cousins in Korea until later in life. But I think like natural motion of qi, I would just pull my hands up and get really hot. And I was like, well, I think it started to get to where I’m like, I think I would like to work with something that would actually help some people and individuals, and because I’m a science guy, I mean I’m a nerd in that way. And when my dad, that always stuck in my brain, is like, you can mean you could actually help somebody by just looking at some symmetry or something on their body and get an idea, and you could put your hands on somebody and help them feel better. And that that stuck with me. And then this is the kicker. I decided to go, I was like, well, my dad’s friend said you didn’t go to neurology, like be a neurosurgeon, you could be an osteopath, you can be a chiropractor, you can do Chinese medicine, but I had to pick something that was going to cover the whole gamut. In certain states, chiropractic or osteopath would be really big. Well, the big thing was when I went to school, I got into a rear-end accident and I jacked my neck up pretty bad. And this is before I was going into graduate school. So I go there and I can’t ever keep my neck stuff stuff steady. They did all the work on it, I get adjusted, it would fall right back out of place. I’d be like, Oh my goodness, I’m having headaches. I’m supposed to be going to school. And then I had a guy that lived near me. He was one of my he’s one of my chums. And he said, Well, come here and let me work on you. And he did the kind of technique I do now. And I was like, you know, I I got another story. Can I just I got there’s a lot of moving pieces.

Sam: 24:45

We’re in it, it’s all good.

Dr Motley: 24:46

Well, I like to reverse. So I he has this small device that I used on you called a radionics, like it’s called a tummus, and I used it on you, and that’s where I trap energy, or I f I find the energetic blocks, right? So just keep that in mind. So I’m gonna rewind. Well, my dad, who’s the biggest drill sergeant and a very sweet man, he used to have fainting spells. And my dad was a strong dude. So he he finally during college, right before we went to college, like high school, college, he would have these fainting spells, and I would be like, and it would irritate me because my dad’s always been a big strong guy, and he would go to the clinics and he’d give him nitrous glycerin, and he’s like, Oh, it’s just maybe your heart, they could never give him an answer. Okay. My dad’s friend, my buddy in high school, his dad, he said, I have this machine that would help you and find out some things. And I was like, What does that mean? Basically, it’s a radionics machine, and what it does, guys, is it can actually take your hair samples, nail samples, voice samples, and detect the frequency range within your voice. So he did that while I was in high school, and my d found out my dad had parasites in his liver.

Sam: 25:57

Whoa.

Dr Motley: 25:58

All through his liver, right? And I was like, you know, back in the day I didn’t know what parasites parasite your liver, and it took me back to another time when a chiropractor took my nail beds and he compressed them, he says, You got parasites. So he gave me grapefruit seed extract. This is before I went to school. That’s why K the all these things are coming together. So he used that frequency machine. He says, Oh, I’m gonna pull it from you. And I said, What do you mean pull it from you? He goes, No. If the machine can resonate with you, like tuning forks, you knock one tuning fork and you have the other one at the same note, you know some music, you’ll make the other one vibrate just by hitting one of them. And he said, The machine will do the same thing for you. So you can set the machine at a certain frequency, a parasite, and if it finds it in you, it’ll pull the energy away from the parasites. And I went, That’s crazy. And I was like, What are you talking about? And I didn’t know, you know what my dad did? My dad was getting treated, and he goes, I feel like I’m tasting a nickel in my mouth. He kept doing that, and I was like, What does that mean? He goes, he goes, it tastes like metals all in my mouth. And I was like, All right. And he got worked on a couple times and he never had another feigning spell again. Wow. And you think that doesn’t make you think, what is that about?

Sam: 27:17

I wonder if he tasted the heavy metals as the parasite.

Dr Motley: 27:20

Completely. Yeah, I guarantee you.

Kim: 27:22

Whatever they were dumb.

Dr Motley: 27:24

And that’s why I went. I went to school. He my friend, okay, so when he showed me that device, it had the same little, it had a plate, just like the machine, the radiance machine. I know that’s a lot to take in, guys. But he worked on me and I couldn’t get my neck uh fixed up. And there’s a couple of acupuncture meridians. One’s called a gallbladder meridian. It starts right here, it does this number, it goes to your TMJ. So if you have TMJ problems, gallbladder goes around your ear, goes back up here, comes right down the neck, and he says, Hey, you’ve got gallbladder issues. That’s why your neck doesn’t go into place.

Sam: 27:51

Come on, but okay, so this is what’s so interesting about this. An an actual accident did trigger an injury, right? But is it which is so parallel to her. Yeah. But it’s because there was this other issue that’s connected to where that injury is that is out of balance and or something’s wrong with it. And so if that’s not fixed, this can’t fully That’s true.

Dr Motley: 28:13

You just hit the nail on the head. Because the thing was it I get all excited. I want to get too much. And it weakens. Yes.

Kim: 28:18

It weakens the area as well. So invaders like to come in where it’s area. It’s pre-existing. So my area is weakened.

Sam: 28:25

And so actually, the accident was kind of a blessing and designed to be able to do that. That’s exactly right. Because it uncovered something. And it exposed something to you, and the body was able to speak to you in symptoms.

Dr Motley: 28:37

That’s right. And there was no accident that an accident occurred. Because it exposed, because your life path was not say determined, but your intention had a life path. So you drew it to you to put you into that direction. Isn’t that crazy? That whenever I got hit in the neck, he goes, Oh no, it’s a gallbladder. I said, What? Does all these little points you know you see me doing on you? Mm-hmm. I feel like my body goes into rigor mortis for like three days. I feel like I’m detoxing. I was like, I don’t sleep this long, I don’t poop this much, this is going crazy. And then my neck stopped hurting, and I was like, I can’t, I can move my neck completely. And he says it was your gallbladder. That whole point you just said is like, did that choose me, that accident, to get to where I’m at today?

Kim: 29:19

Do you think it’s already all in us and then those accidents could happen and it releases like I I’m not opposed to that thought process? Like because our tissue, I mean, all of this is a pretty wild thought process of what’s really in these human bodies.

Dr Motley: 29:36

Yes. And I always wonder if you have already have the coding within you. Like you you have you’re in this space and you have you you’re going through your journey and you’re unraveling it. And so you you had the accidents come to you because you have a set destiny, and some people believe that. So I’m with you. I think that whenever those things occur, that was it already the emission of the frequencies. Uh because this is the other part. It says, Well, your dad had gallbladder issues, right? And then you think did you or I get something from our parents unknowingly? And we are processing it, but something in our subconscious or something in our energetic field was like, I don’t need to perpetuate this or carry this anymore.

Kim: 30:18

Yeah.

Dr Motley: 30:19

So you created the frequency, or you as accepted the fact that you may have to be the one to break it. And so you chose the path in life you were taking.

Kim: 30:29

Yeah. Oh my gosh. It’s not just general rational curses, but I was born in mold.

Sam: 30:37

Yeah.

Kim: 30:38

And because of all the things I’ve been through, we found out and uncovered my mom has the same mold strands as me. And we were sitting around the table a couple of months ago, and uh, I had her tested for all the same things I was tested for, and they were all the exact same. Everything was almost exactly the same. Exactly the same. The same exact mold. Then my my dad and her started talking, and the light bulbs were going off in my family. And my mom and dad looked at each other and said, Oh, that’s what’s wrong with with my mom.

Sam: 31:11

And then you would have never gone through everything you did up until this point in your life, that would have never happened. That conversation would have never happened. So you are a generational b curse breaker.

Kim: 31:20

Whether it’s the the generational gene issue or the generational environmental toxins that have eaten my family. And it just, yeah, I mean it all makes it all makes sense.

Dr Motley: 31:31

Oh, I just love it. I mean, it makes but like you guys say listening to you guys talk, it just has these this like uh camera roll goes in my head where you think you you remember you told me a story of how you met Jeremy and then you guys were like in your you’re when you’re up in the cab and you’re like I just went up there to die, and you think about all the energy and we all have those stories in our life, and then you think you had your parents and that thing built up in you, and then you’re like all that to get to where you are, and you’ve like how many how many people have responded to you guys about like the podcast, the supplements?

Sam: 32:01

I mean the yeah, how many of the ripple effects is real dropping the pebble in the pond? How many people truly were touching, explaining? I mean, even just me finding her when I did in her parasite cleanse. I was 13 years deep into a holistic lifestyle, and you know, I had never parasite cleansed. Which is a miss for everyone. It’s wild. I mean, I’m missing I couldn’t believe it. I I was so on point about everything else, and I did, and hundreds of worms left my body. And I know you know because y’all talked about it on YouTube. Over a hundred left my nose, dogly. I blew over a hundred out of my nose. Yeah. So it’s it’s me meeting her when I was supposed to. And just from meeting her and having the experience I had with removing hundreds of these visible worms from my body, I put every family member, every friend. I’ve put so many people on there now. They’ve done it. So it’s like the ripple effect from us going through our own challenges and accidents and healing, then it ripple effects out to everyone we know. And then it’s like uh each one teach one, and that just everybody keeps healing. Everybody keeps growing.

Dr Motley: 33:05

Yeah, I’m gonna do that. And then I think how many people have you like uh affected? And I and I’m wondering like all the like for the yin-yang, and I’m just saying there’s there’s some people’s thoughts, it’s like how much energy you had to absorb, and now your body’s like, well, that’s how much energy I have to push out. And I think that it really is like those those are those are the mysteries I I think about too. Like whenever you think about energetics, and like you say, your mom passed mold to you and everything is exactly the same.

Kim: 33:31

Like born into mold. Born into it. I do have a question. My question is how do you process all of the energy that you’re absorbing from people that you’re healing?

Sam: 33:43

I’m so glad you asked because I had the same question. Yeah, I was just gonna reword it a little bit different, so maybe it might even spark a little extra. But how do you observe, not absorb and take it all on when it the their qi and energy is going into you when you touch it? How what do you how do you protect your protect? Yeah. And then we gotta and then we’ll go back to the No.

Dr Motley: 34:04

I think it we need to be able to do that. I think it’s a good question. I think people out there like to preface that too. It’s like when you, you know, you think about all the, and I’m not saying my patients give this, but I think what people really think like being around individuals or going through a situation where there’s toxic energy, and what do you do to like release it? Um, I will say that I was not the best. I say it kind of, I’ll try to laugh it off, but I to release it, people would say you need to do a certain amount of grounding. Uh Chinese medicine practitioners would say you need to do some forms of qigong or tai chi. Others say you need to go take a shower every single time you take because the water helps actually take all the polaric charge off your skin. There’s certain ways people say go outside and ground, grab a tree. I used to always at the end of the day try and go do like tree touch trees so you could transfer some of that electrical energy out of your body. Unfortunately, I didn’t do that very well all my life. So when they say when I observe and not absorb, um, you do absorb quite a bit sometimes. And um, and that’s not to have anybody feel sorry for me. It’s just practitioners. If you go to a lot of the seminars I go to where there’s a lot of frequency and energetic work, you know, practitioners, a lot of them don’t look the best. Yeah. They all have it on their face. They all have it, they all have like joints that hurt is because remember, like you just said, if I do absorb and I’m deciphering the information from you, you have the only reason reason you resonate with the person is because you’ve experienced it as well.

Sam: 35:33

Oh, that’s that’s a lot.

Dr Motley: 35:35

So if it keeps building up over time, it will express up. So, point in case, um, 2017, I woke up in the middle of the night, like the worst stabbing pain in my stomach, and I thought it was a kidney stone. It wasn’t, it was a ruptured ulcer. And it was because all you know, not only like absorbing people’s energy all day, but my mom and my brother, like the situation at home was just a lot of stress. And my mom had a chronic stomach and worry issues, and that passed to me. And that thing festered since I was a kid because I used to have ulcers when I was a kid, and it finally ruptured. And my sister was there, she was very, very kind, but she’s like, you know what it is, it’s all the energy absorb and all the people that are on you. You can’t help that. So I decided I need to slow down. That’s why I like as kind of semi-retired a bit. But how do you get from absorbing and observing? I think I’ve gotten better to listen to uh my body. I’m I think grounding mats are really good, grounding sheets. Practitioners out there will actually put their feet on a grounding mat. I try to get outside as much as I can. That’s why I like to go to the ocean and put my feet in the water because it’ll like pull all that the positive ionic charge out of your body, which is toxicity. I’d say this though, um, it’s made me slow down a lot. And I’m not, again, I’m not feeling sorry for myself, but I think that um you start to absorb as much as you you do, and it wears you down. And the only problem is that you get so used to feeling other people’s uh in thoughts and energy that you’ll get overloaded and you’ll start to get disconnected because you you have to deal with theirs and you don’t know how to deal with yours. So that’s my issue there.

Sam: 37:12

That is so interesting you said theirs and and yours, because it’s like how when you’re so in tune and empathic and open to be able to even feel someone else’s, how can you even navigate that using discernment on what’s mine and what isn’t?

Dr Motley: 37:28

And truly.

Sam: 37:28

It’s like the lines are blurred. The lines are blurred for me, not as a practitioner, but just a human in life being empath imp empathic. I walk around and a lot of time I’ll be like, why do I feel like that? Yeah. And I’ll I’ll think it’s me. And then I’ll be like, wait a minute, was that them? I I I don’t know. Sometimes I don’t know what’s mine and what someone else’s when it comes to energy because I’m a feeler, I’m a Scorpio moon. I feel everything to the deepest darkest waters. So, you know. When’s your birthday? Uh well, my I’m a Aries son. Okay. March sun, but I’m a Scorpio moon.

Dr Motley: 38:01

Okay, gotcha.

Sam: 38:01

The emotions and the way I process emotions deep, dark in the primordial, shadowy waters. But yeah, but yeah, so so I think that’s really brilliant. Um, it’s not, you don’t have to um say, like, oh, I’m not feeling sorry for myself. Like, we don’t think you’re feeling sorry for myself. It’s not coming off like that at all. It’s coming off like, whoa, what a amazing human healer to take this on, even knowing in advance, like, oh, you can take it on and it can affect you and all that, and still going through it and really just navigating it the best you could. Yeah, it just sounds really human. It is and you know, it’s like you learned as you went, right?

Kim: 38:34

Absorbing. I mean, I have to say that when I worked in the field because I did the specialties in urology, and so I dealt with a lot of Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s and MS. And that was really hard to not absorb it. And you know, and I’m I was young, I had no idea, and I would go home and I’m I could feel certain things. I’m sure. Oh, yeah, I went and got tested for MS because I’m like, oh wait, like, yeah. I mean, I went through the whole, yeah, and I didn’t know how to just observe versus absorber.

Sam: 39:05

Look at us open-hearted, I love it, humans.

Dr Motley: 39:08

Yeah, so you know, we’re just so open, it’s like we, you know, it’s when you uh when you as a practitioner, you think you’d be um I say smarter or like more wisdom to where you like Yeah, I think that you keep learning and learning, and like you you even as I’ve been doing it for this long, you think all the techniques, like they say you use homeopathy, use these crystals or use uh essential oils, which whoever uses those, um you know that’s great. But I always feel this though, I always think that you’re eventually gonna absorb other people’s stuff if you’re helping them, and you can’t necessarily escape it. Yeah. But but practitioner out there, if you know a way to please tell me. I’m not telling you.

Sam: 39:49

I mean, you’ve listed a lot of amazing ones. So I love that there you even like are aware of that and people know like, oh no, these are tools. They’re so tools. Use these tools, they work and they’re gonna be able to do that. They work, right?

Dr Motley: 39:58

And they don’t if you if um because we’ll see. I’ll see quite a bit of people in a day. And it’s not um the probably the smartest thing to do because you’re just one energy field after the other. So I always compare it to be like if you had a fully charged battery and you just went in the parking lot and there was a bunch of dead batteries and you went and just charged each one of them up off the same battery. And that’s it. After a day of seeing, you know, 20, 25 people, you’re just like, man, that’s that’s a little bit harsh on the body. So I think that once you can learn um how to allow energetics to flow through you, yeah, that’s one of the keys, like some of the best qigong bats, they know how to allow the energy to flow right there.

Kim: 40:40

And it doesn’t get stuck through that’s smart, through you. Through you.

Sam: 40:44

Like you’re transparent almost. It’s like through you. It is.

Dr Motley: 40:47

It’s like, for instance, okay, so if you ever hear a situation that makes you go, uh something happened, you go and you breathe in and you’ll stick it in your stomach or stick it down here, it’s because you intentionally want to grab the energy and try to fix it.

Sam: 41:02

Get out of here. Is that when we go?

Dr Motley: 41:03

Oh yeah, because you you actually build it in and you hold it in the organ.

Sam: 41:07

Release it then. Okay, and just because I I I was having back spasms and I dove deep into a guy whose lower back, how to release all that. And he uncovered a really awesome key key I’d never thought about before, was so focused in this world about the breathing in. Yeah. And he taught me how to breathe all the way out. He goes, breathe all the way out, now breathe out more, then breathe out more and more and more. And you’re gonna feel your diaphragm and your stomach away in. He goes, now see how how that feels. Your core is real tight now, right? Yeah. Now breathe in, but keep your core like that. Now you’re breathing into your low back when you do that. But when I learned how to breathe all the way out, he goes, You don’t understand what happens is that air gets so stagnant down there, and then you just have air always stagnant, stuck down there. And I never realized in just like a um a human reaction to something, what we do, we go, You do? You literally just took the energy in. So now being aware of that, I’m not sure. No, no, no. If you do not, I’m not doing it.

Kim: 42:01

Because every time I’ve done that, it’s usually because I saw a picture of a worm. It’s human. And then all of a sudden I pass a couple of days later.

Sam: 42:09

If you do do it because you’re human, then just remember to breathe out and release it so that it can go out of you.

Dr Motley: 42:16

And I I if you um eat do you find yourself sometimes I have a lot of patients that when they get on the table, they’ve had a hard day, and this is another thing you breathe. They’ll do this, they’ll go. They’re sires. They’re sighing all the time. I’m a sire. And you sigh?

Kim: 42:34

I’m a hold I hold my breath. Yep. I hold my breath and I sigh.

Dr Motley: 42:37

You know, you can’t digest air. That’s what you’re trying to, you can’t get enough air in. And so what they call it is uh this is one aspect about saying it, but they call it either you’re living in a fright conflict or a death conflict. Because you need more air. And so people will breathe in. And when you just said, you said it beautifully, when you hold it in your lungs and the ears, remember the lungs are eating air as much as your stomach is eating food.

Sam: 43:01

Get out of here.

Dr Motley: 43:02

So if you don’t breathe out, your lungs and your large intestine are the two main organs to help you expel waste because your large intestine helps you poop. Your lungs will breathe out so much bacteria, yeast mold, you know that it comes out. Whatever’s not basically put out through your large intestine will either go through your skin or through your breath. So if you hold on to your breath, you’ll hold on to a ton of toxic waste. But what is this is the kicker. What will it do to your mentality? If you go and you breathe in, you’re basically telling yourself, hold on to all the crap you can. And you’re gonna hold on to all the crap you can, and if you don’t breathe it out, you’ll get used to it, and then you’ll hold on to a lot of crap, and you’ll start seeing weight gain and slower metabolism and constipation and things, and you’re going like, Well, I can take care of this and I can do and you can give control issues. You won’t want to you want to control the situation.

Sam: 43:52

Because you’re holding on to it. Because you’re holding on to it the whole time. You’re grasping.

Dr Motley: 43:56

So your only thing is like when you breathe it in, your brain and your little organs are just working in synchronicity because you’re living that in your brain. Isn’t that crazy? Like you can’t. Like you just said, I breathe out. Like I used to have a friend at school, and he could he used to smoke cigarettes. He didn’t want his parents to know, like when he was like 14 or 15, he would do this. He would he would breathe real hard, and he would he wouldn’t be he would be in school, we wouldn’t be smoking, and he’d go and he’d breathe out cigarette smoke because he it was stuck in the bottom of his lungs. Oh man. As a kid, I laughed. I was like, Josh, I don’t think that’s the best thing, man. You gotta get that checked. Yeah, I don’t think that’s but we do that, like you said, if you’re a sire, when you they say that your body’s craving oxygen is because there could could be possibly a program saying when you were hurting and dying in your heart, I’m not trying to b bring up bad thoughts or memories, but your brain is processing that. So you have to keep on like as you breathe, you gotta practice breathing out, especially through your stomach. And when you let she flow through you, this is the crazy thing. Sometimes in in the day, when you feel like a lot’s coming up and you go, Oh, I feel it all through my chest, you literally stand up, and when I say this is the easiest, and you’ve done heard me say this before, you relax your your bladder and your bowels as though you’re gonna go to the restroom. And that will open up your parasympathetics. If you can make those or those muscles around your your bunghole and your and your PP get really relaxed, you’ll allow the energy to flow right down through there, down through your nether regions, down through your feet. And if you can do that, you’ll let go. But who does that every day? And so if you can actually sit there and let the so if somebody comes and says, Kim, yeah. Or you just go and you almost want to catch it because it’s almost like whenever you think I’m gonna pee my pants and you catch on to that, right? It’s the same thing you do. You hold on to your waist. I’m not saying I know how to do that well, I’m just saying I I don’t at all. Uh I just think it’s really like when you practice, like in the office, guys, when I’m working on somebody and I feel like I literally will do something, I’ll grab somebody’s hand or something. And it’s not their bad intentionality, but I’ll feel them and I call it pulling on me. They are tired in a certain par parameter of their body. And when I do that, they’re like, Motley’s got energy that I need, and they’ll just you know pull me. And I’m like, ah, and it got me, and then you start feeling the symptoms they feel. And so I’ll do this, and it happens quite a bit.

Sam: 46:20

Energy transfer energy transfer.

Dr Motley: 46:22

So they’ll be like, there’s energy vampires. Some people don’t mean to actually do that.

Sam: 46:25

Not maliciously. Not maliciously. It’s to me that sounds like a body survival mechanism. It’s just an animal. Yeah, oh yeah. So it’s just like, oh, life. Yep. You know, Dr. J always talks, life wants to live.

Dr Motley: 46:37

Yeah.

Sam: 46:38

Well, the other day I realized death wants to die.

Dr Motley: 46:41

Yeah. That’s a good point.

Sam: 46:43

That’s a good thing. The other side of that, you know? So I was like, whoa, well, wait. Or take someone with them. Yeah, and not like you said, not not maliciously, but unconsciously. Unconsciously. And so, okay, there’s one thing you said I think’s really important because we’ve this whole time we’ve talked a lot about the physical stuff. So much physical and physical and the energy and all of that, right? But pointing to organs, pointing to injuries, pointing to diseases or illnesses. But you did mention your mom carried worry and she passed that to you. So worry, it’s not a physical, tangible thing you can see, it’s an emotion, right? So I recently have di dove into the mind-body connection and mind-body medicine and the connection between the two. And last night when you were working on Kim, every single part you would touch on her. It wasn’t just physical, you would talk about an emotion. You even brought out your homeopathic flower essences and plant essences, and they told you what emotions were causing the certain things. So, can we for a moment just touch on that? Like the importance of okay, not just releasing breath and healing and healing an organ to heal an injury or getting parasites out that are physical, but what about those invisible emotions?

Dr Motley: 47:58

Uh I w I think that’s one of the biggest things that over the years I was never um a practitioner that liked to deal with emotions. I was always a meat and potatoes kind of guy. I liked structural ligaments, muscles. And everything you can see, everything else is tangible.

Kim: 48:12

It’s like we have to be able to see it. Yeah, yeah. But I’m dealing with things I know are caused by she’s an emotional creature. Yeah, she feels like everything. Her emotions are tangible to her. Yeah. Where our emotions are very like, oh, they’ll be there. We don’t know what we’re doing. I feel it all to the deepest. She feels it. And it is like, it is, it, she, it’s like this to her, right? And this our bodies are like this to us. Her emotions are like this. That’s a good one.

Sam: 48:40

So my whole life, because it’s been like that, I’ve just, you know, in a lot of situations, oh cry. Oh, you’re so much, you’re so dramatic, oh, you’re so sensitive. So I learned to just push, push, push, push, push, push, push down. And so I now I’m experiencing physical symptoms and I know are manifestations of it. Yeah. So I’m currently learning how to release them and doing like this certain type of like journal speaker, I get it out unbridled writing and let let that little toddler have the fit and like get it out.

Kim: 49:08

I’m learning how to process the emotional because it’s already been manifested into a physical problem. That’s exactly that’s exactly what we’re doing.

Sam: 49:15

So we’re not popping up for me as the physical, and I’m like, oh, wait a minute, there’s a connection here. So in your work, when you when you sense and you see what emotions are causing things for people, how do you I I see you, you know, physically fix things and open things up, but how do you have them address those emotional things?

Dr Motley: 49:35

There’s a lot of good ways, and I think that people out there, when you hear it, you’re thinking, yes, I got so much emotions that I know is trapped in my body, and I I don’t know how to actually release them because I go to I love these things I love, like talk therapy and different types of therapy, like EMDR and such, and they a lot most they work. Uh some people don’t think talk therapy actually works. They’ll say that, and I’m like, well, maybe they do, maybe they don’t. But point, you guys already answered the question. You guys did a great job because this is the thing. So reiterate whenever you um already know that you’re in touch with your emotion, you’re right. There’s some people who are so good at feeling what they emotionally feel um that they actually could tell you where it’s at in their body, and they go, Oh, I feel that super much in my chest. The flip side is is when they feel it in their chest, it could be in their lungs, and this is a thing, but the lungs are connected to like the upper back, like your upper thoracic, and you wouldn’t know that. And she would say Yeah, she would say, she would say, Oh, it’s in my lungs, and then she goes, Oh, but my back hurts. So Kim would probably say, Well, man, my back hurts like this. So you would change you would go with your chest, you would say it comes into my back. So it’s the the language, how do you perceive the the input? And I think that whenever I’m working on somebody and there’s an emotion that’s trapped, I will say that most all ailments will have an energetic field, a compressed energetic field that’s probably initiated the problem. Unless you drank water that had tons of parasites, unless you ate something of parasites and was tracked. Now, I think you’ve hit on this before, but if you have an emotion that was given to you by a parent, like worry, remember that you learn not only seeing the trait in your parent, but generational and energetic in your blueprint DNA, you actually have certain sections of your DNA that are telling you this is how you should respond with worry. Like you should worry, shame, guilt, I feel like I don’t belong, I’m not worthy of this. And if you look back in your generational, like that’s the same pattern. And when you do that, the w the goal work that I hope to bring is that if I find where you trapped it, I can tell where your physical body will express it. But you’re right, it took time for it to finally physically manifest because the longer it’s in your psychology and nervousness, nervous system, it’s been there for a long time. You finally got tipped over and now it’s showing in a bad shoulder or a bad hip. But whenever I look at every point on you, the reason I would do that is because I wanted to find out what your backstory was to every single point. Because, like for instance, it yeah, the elbow would be like, is it resentment or anger? Is it emotional exhaustion, distrust? Because what will happen is you start to hear the repeating pattern. Because if Kim kept showing up distrust, she didn’t trust that she’s doing a good enough job.

Sam: 52:21

Oh, it could be self-trust. Self-trust.

Dr Motley: 52:24

You could come into the and you and you know, like with your own emotions, you’re like, oh man, I do that all the time. And then I’ll the thing I want to do is like I find which organ, I’ll find all the related points and release them so that she can get to the organ to wake you up. And so whenever I’m doing this for her, I’m trying to get small intestine to wake up so she’ll small intestine will be like, actually, you know what? Like, I am doing this again. So it’s awareness. Yep. So what I’m trying to do is open up all the points physically, like get all the muscles opened up, for instance, this is an example, to get the energy into the organ that’s processing her distrust. Does it make sense? So I’m trying to so every time it happens.

Sam: 53:02

You’re opening the blockage, you’re letting the energy flow through, and that organ should then do its job.

Kim: 53:10

Exactly right.

Dr Motley: 53:12

And you just hit it right.

Sam: 53:13

I got something on it.

Kim: 53:14

Yep, I got something on it. Go for it. So I used to have when you worked on my hip, that pain used to be in my neck, and I physically get stalicanglia blocks that are latocaine and steroid. And since getting those, my pain has gone to this area.

Sam: 53:30

Oh it is pushed and I know transferred it.

Kim: 53:33

Oh, yeah, I know for a fact because I was laying in bed the other day and I was like, man, the same pain used to be here. I get the blocks. You can get the same sleep block down here, right? But I paused it from manifesting here and I pushed it to here.

Sam: 53:50

This is what else is tripping me out about your injury, though. Your injury. Yes. This is what else is tripping me out that I just learned from you. Which is I’m just I’m still so like. No, no, watch, watch, because you had the same thing happen to you. So this is what’s so trippy to me about the body. Everything’s connected. Yeah, it’s all connected. It’s like a system that has like it’s all interconnected. Yeah. And we don’t necessarily know, like laymen don’t necessarily know how it’s all connected or how it works. You know, and we have one and we don’t really know. It didn’t come with like a manual, right? But what’s wild about it is you had an injure uh an accident happen that injured your knee and your hip, but like you, because multiple accidents actually. So like she had this trauma happen physically that actually was an event in life. Yep. But it hasn’t been able to fully heal because it’s connected to all these other organs and spots of your body that you’re holding emotions that are that you have candido or that you have yeast or whatever. Until he’s all like pointy’s like, nope, it’s connected to this. So until you correct and let the energy and frequency flow freely through those areas and clean out the or or pull the energy away from the yeast in that area or whatever, right? And then now that’s working right. That injury can finally heal because it’s not compensating for this other and right? And I’m exactly right. That’s correct.

Dr Motley: 55:08

It truly is.

Kim: 55:09

And you can try all the physical things. You can do all those physical things, which I’ve done, right? I’ve done stem cells, I’ve done PRP, I’ve done ejections, I’ve done epidurals, I’ve done nerve blocks, and I still have pain there. Oh, I’ve done everything. The band-aid approach. Yeah, it’s a band-aid. Well, her hip is hurting.

Sam: 55:30

So we’re so focused on the hip.

Dr Motley: 55:32

That they would say that if you went to the um or like no knock on orthopedics, but they go there like, well, just gonna keep on working on that one vertebra. Or and then with your example, I mean, sh Kim, you’ll may see it in the video, but like her quads wouldn’t turn on on that one side, remember? Her quadricep muscle, right? And what is that associated with? It’s associated with the same nerve that goes to her small intestine.

Kim: 55:55

So And I had small intestinal parasites.

Dr Motley: 55:57

She had small intestinal parasites. So why would the small intestines parasites go to her small intestines? Because there’s probably some blocked energy or program running in the small intestine, which would have to say in germ medicine, like you’re not processing the fullness of life. Yeah, you’re not getting the most energy.

Kim: 56:12

I don’t feel worthy. I don’t I don’t have self-worth.

Dr Motley: 56:16

Yep.

Kim: 56:16

And I and I talk about that a lot. Like I’m not ashamed to say that when I need to cleanse, it’s when I start to feel unworthy.

Dr Motley: 56:24

That’s bad.

Kim: 56:25

And that’s where that’s where that emotion comes from. And that’s also why I love sustain so much. Yeah. Our tincture, because of the fact that I put in peppermint, it’s a digestive aid, and it’s because I have a feeling of unworthiness. And I have my whole life.

Dr Motley: 56:41

That is like, see, that to me, I want everybody to hear that because like I can get real technical and it can get a little bit over people’s head space. But I would say that when you feel your worthiness come in, I I come into the I the idea of like if it goes into a certain muscle, then I’m saying it will turn off those muscles in life, and you won’t be able to do the physical things that would pull you forward. Yeah. Like if your quads are not turned on, what will you gonna do? You’re not gonna be able to move your knees and move forward. And what will you do psychologically?

Kim: 57:10

Oh, it’s terrible.

Dr Motley: 57:11

You won’t feel like moving.

Kim: 57:12

It’s terrible. It’s terrible I mean, I don’t really talk a lot about it, but like there’s times when I’ve gone to Disneyland with my niece, and I had to have a wheelchair because I physically, but I also had a lot of anxiety and I did realize that it associated together, but also that it was so much pain.

Dr Motley: 57:33

That’s exactly right. So it truly, I think that’s how um emotions would how do you interpret pain? And and when you realize that that pain, you know, fear will trap in certain parts of the body, and you know, you’re right. It’s just like, yeah, I have worked in that way. Like you put a bug at point. Yes, over the years I’ve learned how to associate your emotion with which part of the body. And, you know, there I wish there was more practitioners that worked in different hospital settings that would do that because you can find out a lot. But I think personally, when you realize like what why don’t you feel like you can stand up for yourself? Why don’t you feel like you can actually stand your ground? Why don’t you feel like you can keep from wavering? And you think about like what happens to my hips on my side of my body? This is a truly, think about the hip muscles keep you from going back and forth. If you walk straight, it’s because they feel stable. But in Chinese medicine and kinesiology, you would say that those hip muscles have everything to do with your ovaries. They’re connected to your ovaries. So if you have ovarian issues, if you feel like you have to be a mother for everybody, if I have to send energy to actually make sure everybody’s okay, you’ll start to feel like you can’t you’re gonna waver. I don’t have enough energy for myself. I feel like I’m just sta I’m just moving back and forth in life. And when you start cleaning up that psychology of like you gotta take care of yourself a bit, and you need to start to heal your ovaries and heal your reproductive and feel desire, then your hip muscles will turn on.

Sam: 59:04

And even pleasure.

Dr Motley: 59:05

That’s exactly right.

Sam: 59:06

And I think whether you actually have physical ovaries or not, because I don’t have ovaries.

Kim: 59:11

And so she has But you’re the second doctor in the last couple of weeks that has mentioned it with me. Yeah.

Dr Motley: 59:18

Right? We’re out the back.

Sam: 59:21

Your body remembers them. You have the energy of it, and you still are a human woman. And so it’s like you still have to, like he said, like take care of yourself, allow yourself to feel that pleasure because you know you’re worthy of it. Yeah, and you deserve it.

Dr Motley: 59:35

Deserve it. And it’s like whenever she says, like for me, like because I get science nerd about it, that her ankles show up and she says my ankles hurt. Well, the ankles and foot reflexology has everything to do with reproductive. So my brain just goes reproductive area. Do you and she’s like, I don’t have ovaries.

Sam: 59:50

Well, we talked about this and we wonder if she still is going through a cycle every month. Yeah, even if she doesn’t have the organs. And then so, but because it’s been so long since For lack of a better word, she blood. Yeah. She she’s not living her life thinking about where she’s at in her cycle, because how would she know? And so, but but it’s like, oh my gosh, so emotional today. She’s so this, she’s so that, or she’s so like sensitive or whatever, or like irritable or whatever. And it’s like, I mean, you could you’re still a woman. They’re still a woman. So, you know, so that’s like so wild. But I am gonna add another title to his long list of titles of what he is. Oh, what what you’re a body whisperer. Oh, what is it? Yet you can read and hear the body. Not everyone can. Everyone has one, and not all of us can hear it. So if you could give our audience any advice, tips, wisdom on how they can start listening and hearing it more because the body’s always speaking to us. Yeah. Speaks to us in symptoms, sometimes subtle, sometimes loud. Yes. And how can people get more in tune with their body and really start hearing them and listening to them to be more whole, more balanced, more healthy?

Dr Motley: 1:01:05

And is I think it’s a really great point. And I I tell everybody out there that I still try to accomplish this in my life, but that’s the biggest key, like you said, is how can you decipher what’s yours and what’s not yours? And that’s my biggest thing is what can you do or how can you actually strengthen up your energetic field to be able to decipher what’s yours and what’s not, and what you will receive and what you will give. Because in health, it has and a lot of it has to do when you talked about the emotions being the center of it, is preparing and creating a field that’s so that’s strong enough to only allow the things you want in. So to me, um one of the biggest things I tell people to do is whether you practice like, you know, Chinese medicine or qigong or anything like that, is it really is like we’ve talked about journaling or just having visual or mental notes about what are certain things that you would perceive as healthy for you. And when we talk about the type of people, so this is like my number, probably one of my first things. Okay, I think community is you always want to make sure that you pick that you you describe the people you want around you and write it down. And the reason you describe that person is because you want the same thing for you, you want to be that same person. So I always want to say, if you could find what your ideal now, this is not self-detriment or deprecating to yourself, but you want to say what things can I improve on, or one thing do I want to see myself to accomplish what I could, and you write those down and you say, This is where I want to be, and this is the kind of person I would love to see myself develop into and strengthen into. And then you’re going to know that that’s the kind of person you want to pull into your life. But when you do that and you literally keep that near you, you’ll create your field that allows that frequency to come in. So the more you think about your ideal day or your ideal self, your ideal life, you will perpetuate like that to receive. So all I’m saying is that may sound a little corny to people, but really you have to take time every day to do that. Like if it’s ever 10 or 15 minutes, I mean it. Like get take a walk in the morning, take a shower in the morning, even if it’s long, somebody gets mad at you for being in the shower too long. You want to role-play that thing in your head because you’re gonna have to try to receive that because that will not only receive the energy, it will strengthen you up. It will prepare the more you think of it. Visualizing. Exactly. Visualization will actually keep a lot of energetic, uh make the energetic membrane around your field really strong. So, that’s if anything you do, I would say that and when uh saying like surrender prayers are probably like, you know, people will tell you to do surrender prayers, but if you can pray or meditate or do something five to ten minutes every morning and relax your bunghole and your I’m serious, you think it’s crazy. You do that and you do that and open up and you allow and you picture yourself like a battery, a negative negative pole and a south pole, and you just vi you literally picture yourself recirculating energy. You will build one of the strongest fields. And if you release and let go, you’re gonna allow all the angst and anger and stuff literally flow through you. Except don’t resist. Don’t resist it. And if you do it every day, and you guys know this, if you do it every day, you’ll train your body to be aware when an outsource of somebody else comes into your field because why? You got so used to the taste of your energy. Like you keep doing that and you release, things will pass through you, and you’ll start to catch things that you want to cultivate. You’ll be like, Oh, I need to do that. That’s yours. When you hear something come to you and you go, I would never think that it’s not yours.

Sam: 1:04:52

It’s not yours. Oh man, my partner mentor husband taught me decades ago. He’s like, Not every thought you think is yours. Jeremy and I just had this conversation.

Kim: 1:05:05

You think yeah. He goes, Kim, that voice inside your head that you’re always listening to. He’s like, that’s not really you. Yeah, that’s not you, Kim. And I’m like, what do you mean? I listen to it all the time. He’s like, I know.

Sam: 1:05:17

Yeah, we’ll see a lot of people.

Kim: 1:05:19

I know you listen to it. I know.

Sam: 1:05:24

A lot of people identify with a lot of people identify with um their mind completely. Yeah. So um a lot of what I just heard you say is, well, A, how do you how can you hear your body more and listen, listen? But you have to be uh silent and still enough internally to be able to listen.

Dr Motley: 1:05:43

That is exactly.

Sam: 1:05:44

Um so ground into your body, anchor into your body too, and and not in your mind. And that’s what that time every day, that consistency with that time with self and cultivating self is too, and especially the non-resistant self, because that’s not ego. That’s right. So you’re not an ego when you’re you’re not catching relaxed. Yeah.

Dr Motley: 1:06:00

And you get to used to I love when I first got to the point. I’m not saying I’ve arrived at all. I’m saying none of us have. None of us have. I think that it whenever I got used to um learning how to like let that like I said, the north and south pole, because I like vi you know, that’s how I feel. And then I would get to the point where I knew what what like the taste or the feel of my energetic field, because then you’ll go out and you’re gonna feel imprint, I call impressions. You’ll go out and you’re gonna feel something come up to you. And I’m telling you, you’re gonna feel like that’s why are they pushing that on me? That’s not that’s that’s not mine. So I used to tell myself that whenever I would feel like a like a thought or something coming, I was like, that’s not mine. That’s what I say every time. That’s what I’m saying.

Sam: 1:06:41

Well, uh, you’ve now cultivated like repellent. Yeah. It’s like just automatic repellent to what doesn’t harmonize with my frequency. It’s just boop, boop, boop. You just constantly like this. Constantly have to keep a guard up. And then if something is someone’s though, like if they do have something going on in their body, they do have something, an imbalance, whatever, then um what uh what what do you call yourself so people could uh if it’s not looking you up, look up a pra practitioner that does the work you do. Um, if someone watches this, listens to this, and is really interested in like having help with uh another professional body whisperer. Then who would you or what would you suggest? Yeah, body whisperer, yeah. What would you support body whisperer? You know what I’m saying? Like what would you suggest they search for?

Dr Motley: 1:07:26

I would suggest, like, um, because I know the guys that do the work, there’s so many good. Okay, there’s um I do like uh like neuroemotional technique, Eric because Scotty Walker is a doc a chiropractic doctor that um created where he just integrated acupuncture points and the use of uh not manipulation but using manipulation or uh tapping, not EFT tapping. I like EFT tapping, but NET, neuroemotional technique, because he used the acupuncture system, the spine, to actually help you neurologically basically identify your emotions and use those points to help release it. And I’ve seen hundreds, thousands of people, I’m serious, like over the years, that were able to identify. So if you’re gonna find somebody that did something, I would basically go do an N-E-T doctor. That’s my personal opinion. E T Neuroemotional Technique, NET Mind Body Online. And also, if you can do um that mixed with maybe lens, L-E-N-S Oaks, O C H S, Lens Oaks Neurofeedback Therapy is really good, and that helps to with give you a map of your brain of which ones are asleep. For instance, I’ve gotten a lot of emotions cleared up, but when I got mine done, uh my processing centers that helped me process everybody else’s emotions were super heightened. You can see it on my map. It was super heightened, so I had to process everybody’s, but the parts that allow me to feel happy or feel others is completely asleep. Because we only train what we what we continuously do. So when I saw that, I knew in my heart, I was like, oh, I have a visual from the lens oats. I’m not saying you do it, but that’s a good point. Start, and then I went and did NET, and what happened is I started finding out how much resentment I had to this person and that, and then I was like, heavens, I have quite a bit of resentment, and there was no shame in it.

Sam: 1:09:07

Great, there was no shame in it. What a beautiful thing.

Dr Motley: 1:09:10

Yep, yeah.

Sam: 1:09:10

So you do have a acknowledgement. I’m not judging. It is what it is, but wow, now that I see it and I’m aware, I’m releasing it. Like now I can feel happiness. Like, you know, that’s the work, that’s the inner work. So wow. That’s it, you know? What an absolute pleasure.

Dr Motley: 1:09:26

This is a good episode.

Sam: 1:09:29

Now listen, she’s been raving about you since she met you. I liked you when I met you last night and watched you do your work, but like I do have to say, after this, I have a whole other deeper just like respect, acknowledgement, and like I I see you. Yeah, I see you, man. Like you out here, you out here, like doing this for real. And I appreciate it. Yeah, it’s it’s it’s really it’s really something. What a really awesome human. Thank you.

Dr Motley: 1:09:54

I I appreciate it. I don’t just say it, thank you guys so much. And I think that um camaraderie, like with people of like mind, is like super important. And I’m glad we got you.

Sam: 1:10:02

Well, that’s the community that you were pointing to, which is like the mycelium network with mushrooms. Like we find each other, you know, we connect and like we’re here to strengthen each other. And actually, I hope all of you caught that. His first answer for how to get in tune with your own body and listen was actually community. And that’s like it’s so important to find like minds, like spirits, like hearts, and other humans with like frequencies that harmonize with your own. And um, and if you need to get yours tuned up and fine-tuned, then he gave you the resources to go and search and find people who can help you tune yours up so you can be uh operating and living your life in your authentic frequency and have the best quality of life you can because you’ll be feeling good in your body and mind. Um, what a pleasure, what an honor. Thank you for being here. Do you have any last words, Kim?

Kim: 1:10:49

Where can we find you?

Dr Motley: 1:10:50

Oh, thank you very much. Thank you, mm-hmm. Um I got it’s just Dr. Motley spelled out. It’s just Dr. D O C T O R Motley, and it’s like uh uh Facebook, uh the ex Twitter, uh Instagram uh um website, it’s drmotley.com. And um really this I just want to say this before we leave, though, I would say that um when Kim and I met, I knew we’d be like kindred spirits, like friends for you know life, and I but I think that one of the things that really got me is that um everybody out there like in the office, I do put so many people on the parasite cleanse, and uh when and this is not to sound like you know, trying to sound too profound, but you hit nail on the head and you were talking about like how it drudges up the the things, deep things in the body. And so I’m just saying I’m super grateful because it’s allowed when we do some testing, sometimes people don’t really uh need a certain herb or something. But when you just give it you like a tincture like you’ve created, it drums up things that we’ve forgotten. Yeah. And that’s why people say, well, after four weeks I started passing something. So I’m saying kudos to you. Good job. So everybody, thank you so much.

Kim: 1:12:01

Thanks, Dr. Motley. Thank you. Thank you. And make sure you use code DrMotley for a discount on your ParaFy Kit at Rogershood.com and the lymphatic kit.

Sam: 1:12:13

And the code is spelled D-R-M-O-T-L-E-Y.

Dr Motley: 1:12:17

Mm-hmm. All right, guys, thank you so much.

Sam: 1:12:19

Oh my god, thank you for watching. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Yeah, thank you.

Kim: 1:12:24

Appreciate you. You’re just definitely so much.

Dr Motley: 1:12:27

Great conversation.

Sam: 1:12:28

Yeah, thank you all for tuning in so much. Please remember to like, subscribe, and definitely share this episode. You never know who needs to hear one of the nuggets, some of the wisdom, something in here that can help people heal, can help people feel good in their life, can help people tune up their frequency and live a balanced, healthy, and whole life. Thank you for tuning in, everyone. Until next time.