Season 2 Ep 5: Reproductive Health | Surviving Endometriosis & Thirteen Surgeries

What’s Eating U?! Season 2 Ep 5: Reproductive Health | Surviving Endometriosis & Thirteen Surgeries

Sam: 0:00

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome back to What’s Eating You. We are your hosts, Sam and Kim. And we are serving you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you are hungry for. Please remember to like, subscribe, drop a comment below, share with your loved ones. You never know who this information can help, and your support means absolutely everything to us. Today we are discussing a topic we’ve been wanting to talk about for quite a while. And tonight is the perfect night to dive in. We are talking about reproductive systems and reproductive health.

Kim: 0:48

This all started with me because of endometriosis. Yeah. And so it really has a huge part of why I’m so vocal about all of this. You know, I’m pretty young still considering everything I’d been through, but you know, they just didn’t have an idea of exactly what to do with me as I was progressively getting worse with the endometriosis.

Sam: 1:11

Well, let’s dive into that then. How uh to your story and journey a little bit about endo. It’s not normal to have, but it’s very common.

Kim: 1:19

Well, 200 million women worldwide have endometriosis diagnosed. And I’m, you know, statistically, I like to always throw out numbers, but always check your own facts. And so six to eight times more than like diabetes and Alzheimer’s, and there’s very minimal studies that are done. And, you know, they always say there’s no cure. And so you kind of go through the the medicine, Western medicine world when it comes to endometriosis. You do everything they say because you’re in so much pain. And I always say what a crazy disease it is because it can cause infertility, which is what happened with me. And, you know, you look pregnant. And so it’s kind of a wild, like, psychological thing that happens to people that have endo. And so for me, I had stage four endometriosis. I had a hysterectomy when I was 29. I’m 47 years old now. I don’t have children. And I had five surgeries prior to the hysterectomy and then five surgeries after the hysterectomy. I was on lupron twice, which is a form of chemo. I had been on depot for 10 years. I was then put on pills. And so if you add all of that up, it was my whole life, basically. It’s really what took me to being chronically ill to the to the ground, basically, is you know, that disease, even when you have a hysterectomy, they come back and say, Oh, well, that should cure it. No, it doesn’t, because it’s all over your body. And when I would go to the doctor and I would say, Listen, I got a spot on my lung, you know, they would do MRIs and CTs. There was a spot on my liver, spot on my kidneys. They’re like, There’s no way endometriosis is all over your body. Well, it was, and they say it all the time now, but it was a thing back then where it was so new that they wouldn’t come out and be like, it can spread all over your body. They just didn’t want to admit it because they don’t really know how to help you.

Sam: 3:20

In your opinion, what causes endometriosis?

Kim: 3:25

Well, I mean, there’s a lot of factors, but for me personally, what my issues were were one was shistomycin, which is a parasite that goes inside of your reproductive systems and your bladder, and it’s from fresh water or snails. And so I read a lot of different studies, specifically after I went viral over worms, that there are a lot of unnecessary hysterectomies. And this is on the NIH, the National Institute for Health, and that’s a governmental site that says that shisha mycin mirrors different diseases that can cause you to need an unnecessary hysterectomy. And I feel like in that moment, it was about a month into after I went viral in July of 2021, around August is when I started digging in a little bit more. And I really just had to grieve, honestly, in those moments, right? And I thought, oh my gosh, I can’t even believe that I’m reading this and I come from this world. And how did I not know this? And why didn’t I look at this before I went and did this life-altering surgery?

Sam: 4:33

Well, you were programmed and indoctrinated for professionally and just being a your average American. Yeah. So you were following a system that you thought was set up to help you when with your medical issues, when really it was just a lot of treatments, a lot of surgeries, and leading you down a road that you weren’t getting better. So wow, after you had your hysterectomy, quite a while after. Yes. And after all of your 13 surgeries, is when you discovered somehow that you had shishtomycin.

Kim: 5:05

Yeah. So I figured out in July of 2021 when I went viral over the parasite cleansing that I had pinworms, round worm, crypto, chronic Lyme, mold exposure to a mold illness status since I was born into mold. You guys, if you’ve watched anything I’ve ever said, I literally have gone down this rabbit hole of my genes, my mom’s genes. I was born into mold. Like we figured out that where my dad was, where my parents were living when I was born had mold. So like I’ve really gone down this huge wormhole of everything. But I look back now and I realize that all of these things contributed. Because all the things that are being said now about don’t eat the plastic, dude, no, don’t eat things out of plastic. I never really did that. When I found out that I had endometriosis and how sick I genuinely was, I didn’t eat chicken unless it was hormone-free. So Tyson at the time was hormone-free chicken. And then I always used filters. And I do contribute the fact that water filters are necessary for people that have these autoimmune diseases, which now endo might be in the autoimmune world. I don’t know for sure, but it definitely wasn’t back then, which it’s, I mean, it’s all just labels, right? However, I followed all of these no plastics, no hormones, because they shoot all of that up inside of our meat. So I was very conscientious since around my 20s, the beginning of my 20s.

Sam: 6:39

To the best you could with what the info you had at the vegetarian, sure.

Kim: 6:43

Because I didn’t want the hormones of the meat. And it when I would eat it, it would really spike my estrogen. And then I would go weeks, months not feeling well. And, you know, I think the hardest part is how personally it affects your sex life. It affects even sometimes when I would wipe, I would bleed. So I mean, there were so many aspects of what this particular disease did to me. And then unfortunately, because I had so many surgeries, I then pivoted into another disease called atomiosis, which is a scar tissue disease. And I actually took that scar tissue disease and I realized about turkey’s tail, right? So that is how that disease and me knowing about turkey tail mushroom, which is in one of our kits, the LymF kit, but I take it at five grams a day because it breaks the scar tissue down, which the endometriosis was attaching itself to. And so at one point, my body, because all my organs were shifted up to the side, because it was just encased in scar tissue. So it was like this this uh this you know, pocket that all my organs would set up onto the side of it. Wow. I mean, it was real rough, man. And some of my surgeries were brutal. The 2019 surgery was so brutal, that’s when my doctor said, You can’t do this anymore, Kim. Like this is it, no more. You can’t have any more surgeries.

Sam: 8:10

13 would 13 surgeries, yeah. That’s enough anyway. Yeah. Goodness gracious.

Kim: 8:14

So one is enough. It was, I mean, and in and they do it like every two years. So Jeremy and I, that’s my husband, would prepare every two years. It my jobs dictated when I could do it. I needed always to have insurance. So for me, the idea that it was like this reproductive issue, it was so much more to me because it really ruled my life.

Sam: 8:38

Wow.

Kim: 8:39

It really dictated a lot about my life.

Sam: 8:41

It makes me wonder what could have been done, what if you knew something different back then before all of that? What could have been done differently to prevent you from going down a road of such trauma, suffering, medical neglect, everything that you had to endure, if you knew something different back then that could prevent it, what would it be?

Kim: 9:04

Oh, I definitely would be cleansing. Cleansing. I 100% would be ParaFy cleansing. If I would have had the option 20 years ago, again, 47, had my hysterectomy when I was 29. If I would have been given this option to do any antiparasitics, to do any of the herbs that I put in the ParaFy kit, to do the LymF Kit, like any of my options that I have now in my in front of me, I 100% would have done it.

Sam: 9:34

Yeah.

Kim: 9:34

But I didn’t have those options.

Sam: 9:36

Yeah. I love that you’re bringing ParaFy into this because personally, I, you know, ever since I was a teenager, I’ve had rough cycles. Like just for me, a lot of PMS symptoms. Um, I’ve researched PMDD. I’ve never got diagnosed with it, but I am like I’ve I pretty much can self-diagnose that. It’s all the emotional mental stuff that happens to me with the hormone fluctuations and all of that. So I had really also a lot of like, you know, cramps and a lot of the physical pain and stuff like that. I experienced that since I was a teenager. And and then it got to a point where when hormones would get out of balance, you know, in my adult years, I mean, it would take up like two weeks out of my month of suffering. So, like, we’re talking two weeks of the mental and emotional changes and the mood and the low, the low energy, and the fatigue, and the physical pain, and the boobs hurting so bad, and all these things, right? The first time I ever did ParaFy, it made my next coming cycles so much simpler, smoother, and way more of a pleasant process. I remember like all of a sudden one day I just started bleeding and I went, oh my gosh, I just started, I had no lead up to this. Like, usually it’s like this whole thing, it’s coming. I have like a whole pre-experience every month with it. Well, what ParaFy Cleansing regularly has done for me is it’s shortened that window. Yeah. So now it’s like, I would say like the worst of it is really just down to a few days. It’s like a couple days leading up, maybe the first day of, but it has shortened that window significantly what used to take up half of every month, which is half of my life. Yeah. It’s insane when you add up the time. Seriously.

Kim: 11:28

Mine was months.

Speaker 2: 11:30

Yeah, that’s what I’m saying.

Kim: 11:31

I would have pained, I would bleed for months, and I would be in the same pain as if it wasn’t just starting or starting. There was no difference. And at one point, that’s really when my doctors were like, Kim, you know.

Sam: 11:44

Something has to change. Yeah.

Kim: 11:45

And the crazy thing is now, like, obviously looking back, I really do know that there were so many other things involved. Sure. And I’ve had things that have passed that out of my stool, and I’m like, oh my God, like that totally contributed to this. And so I know that all of these things have contributed to it, but I lived in Utah at the time that I got diagnosed. And people in Utah like to have a lot of kids. Yeah. You know, and they really don’t like to talk to you about hysterectomies. And so I remember when I got diagnosed, I went to my doctor and he said, Kim, I just gotta prepare you. Your endometriosis might be one of the worst that I’ve ever seen. I know a lot of people say those things, but he said, Yours might be the worst I’ve ever seen for your age. And I honestly believe that you should consider having a hysterectomy before you’re 25. Oh. And I’m like, wait a minute, I’m in Utah. You know, I saw specialists.

Sam: 12:43

So young.

Kim: 12:43

That just it’s just like, it doesn’t even make sense to me when you just enrolled in college, just enrolled in medical school, did one semester and had to leave because I got so sick in the middle of it. I had to leave and go just, you know, I went and got my associates in a different way, but it really does cause you to have so many more issues.

Sam: 13:05

I’m sorry, my spirit is screaming right now. Something’s wrong, something’s wrong.

Kim: 13:09

Yeah.

Sam: 13:10

Too young to be so ill for no reason. And it’s like, yeah, you had other things in your system you weren’t aware of yet. So, like later on in life, you found out you had Lyme and like these contributing factors, right? But I’m sorry, it just doesn’t make sense. Why the way these bodies are designed, these self-healing bodies, just how incredible the systems, every system, every organ, right?

Kim: 13:33

It just doesn’t make sense to me that they’re it didn’t make sense to me either, Sam. It didn’t make sense to me either. And I would question them. I would question them. So I knew, you know, we’ve talked in a joking way that like I believe we’re time travelers, and it’s because I have too many things that I never would have known unless it was like me in this moment, right? Going and telling me then, hey, yo, you really need to look closely at your surgery videos. Okay. So I looked at surgery videos because they would give you everything.

Sam: 14:06

Hold on, wait, wait. They filmed your surgeries and you could watch them?

Kim: 14:10

So many. I didn’t know them.

Sam: 14:11

That’s a thing.

Kim: 14:12

Oh, all of the surgery videos. I have pictures of my surgeries, and you know, I have a little autism and so we have some tisms. And so I literally would scroll in, I would spread my screen, and I would look at these weird things that I would say, this kind of looks like a worm. This is a little oblique that doesn’t look like scar tissue. And you guys know I come from Western medicine, so you don’t question, right? I questioned all the time. I questioned all the time. I asked them so many times. I had to change surgeons because I questioned so much.

Sam: 14:52

Did you ever say to a doctor or a surgeon or any medical professional that looks like a worm? Yes, what did they say?

Kim: 15:00

Multiple times. I’m not gonna name the names, but I have goosebumps multiple times. There’s no way you have worms, Kim.

Sam: 15:08

So they like laughed at you and thought you were crazy.

Kim: 15:10

They totally gaslit me. They gaslit you. They totally gaslit me. And I’m like, okay, no problem, you know, because worms are a frequency. They can control your mind a little, a lot. They can tell you what to eat, but they can also tell you that you’re wrong. That there’s no way you have worms. And I know for a fact they can do that because I had some come out my face, and that’s what made me go so viral. Is I used to have like this weird red thing, and when I squeezed it once, things came out.

Sam: 15:40

So hold on really quick. Moving. Are you saying that worms gaslight you too?

Kim: 15:44

A hundred percent.

Sam: 15:46

Worms gaslight you to make you think you don’t have worms so that you keep feeding them and they can survive. News flash. This is big news, everyone. Worms are gaslighters. That’s crazy.

Kim: 15:58

We don’t want to be caught, you know.

Sam: 15:59

Well, hold on. You said you would watch these videos and you would see things and be like, that looks like a worm. Well, I’m just gonna go ahead and let it be known. There have been women who have ParaFy cleansed who have reported when they are on their cycles and they’re bleeding and they look in their period underwear or pull their tampon out, they see worms. Yeah, 100%. Or I I know someone who she’s like, uh, I just pulled this out of me. Yeah. They were wiped and it came out with the blood, and it is for sure worms. So this proves they live in our reproductive organs. Right. Do you think a lot of women who have endo have worms and parasites in their reproductive organs?

Kim: 16:45

I did. Do you just do you believe that a lot of women that have endocrines?

Sam: 16:50

I believe it. Okay.

Kim: 16:51

I believe that women have worms in their reproductive system, and when you think it’s a clot that comes out, it’s very much not.

Sam: 17:02

Ooh, that’s crazy. Listen, I’m sure there are some blood clots. I’m sure there is some tissue. Because the tissue’s coming out. I’ve seen, I’ve seen multiple things that look like multiple things. Back when I ate terrible, ate the all-American diet and was not holistic and health conscious and all of that. Like, yeah, I would see weird stuff. Like knowing what I know now, could some of that have been worms? Yes. Yes, absolutely. With the amount of worms that have come out of me that I’ve seen leave my body and my nose, and like I I’ve even peed some out. I’m like, it’s no question or doubt that they were absolutely leaving my reproductive system, which also tells me that’s another reason why when you do ParaFy cleanse and you experience easier cycles, you’ve removed some of the harmful organisms out of those organs that were making those cycles worse. Yes.

Kim: 17:56

So well, they’re shifting around, they’re moving around. I mean, I know it sounds really creepy and crazy, but like they literally move in and out of the muscle, the tissue, and the blood. And a lot of people that go get things like live blood analysis, which is where they pull the blood out of your arm and then they look at it under a microscope while it’s alive and moving, and they see things immediately. I think we’ve just in such a world that we just don’t think that this is possible for us as humans. And it very much is a problem, but there’s a solution. And I just wonder like how much louder you can go with this solution because there’s so many people that have done the ParaFy kit, done the lymphatic kit, done antiparasitics in general that have just made them feel better.

Sam: 18:46

You know? Yeah, let’s dive into fertility.

Kim: 18:48

Oh my gosh. This is one of my favorite things because of the fact that like I can’t have kids and I didn’t really want children anyway. So it wasn’t really too detrimental to me. But I do know that there are women out there and men out there that would just, this is this is like, this is all they want in life, you know? And so I feel like some of the things that I’ve been able to give back because of what’s happened to me in my trauma and my health is an amazing thing when I get to tell the story about Tyler.

Speaker 2: 19:20

Like it’s almost helpful.

Kim: 19:22

I’m so proud of the fact that we’ve actually been able to help an infertile couple do my cleanse and have a child.

Sam: 19:34

That is so special and powerful. So prior to cleansing, they were having infertility issues for years and she wasn’t able to get pregnant. Right. For years. Years.

Kim: 19:48

Three years, I think he said two or three years is the numbers that they really were trying to have a child actively trying. And I I don’t know for sure if they did. Infertility treatment. I’m not sure. And Tyler has given me permission. I tell his story often. Um, he is our bottle guy. He’s the one that uh I met, and he just gave us a killer deal at the beginning of this for our blue bottles. And so we have sold so many of those blue bottles, they’ve had to do multiple different storage units for the bottles. Anyway, so he um he had said something to me like, What do you suggest for me and my wife? We want to have a child and we’ve struggled for years. And I go, Well, have you cleansed yet? And he said, No. And I go, Well, let me send you kits. Just really dedicate 30 days to like no meat, no sugar, no carbs, no alcohol, no dairy. Really clean everything up because when there’s something else living in your body, your body is not going to give you the thumbs up to go ahead and bring in another living being inside of your body. It’s already stretched, so taxed and thin, with nutrients being stolen because of parasites living in your body.

Sam: 21:05

Living things living in your body. Yeah. Like we don’t have any more room in here for that. Like we all of the energy and nutrients are going to these things. So yeah, that makes sense. Wow. So they both cleanse.

Kim: 21:16

They both cleansed and then she got pregnant six weeks later. Oh, I know. And they have a boy. They have a boy, he’s so cute. And then um Did they name him Roger?

Speaker 2: 21:27

No, no, but I could ask him what he named him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Kim: 21:30

Okay, so that happened to me in a two different two different couples in like a two-week period.

Speaker 2: 21:36

Wow.

Kim: 21:36

So um, one of my really good friends that helped Jeremy understand how to grow mushrooms, his wife reached out to me and said, I heard you have endo, and I heard that this is what you did to put yourself into remission. Because you guys, like in 2019, I was told I cannot have any more surgeries and I had to live this way. And I was like, wait, I haven’t pooped in a month. Um, I looked pregnant, I drink water and I would bloat immediately, which is all symptoms of a parasite. And so I reached out, she reached out to me, and the the timing is so weird because his YouTube channel helped Jeremy learn how to grow mushrooms, which saved my brain. And then she in turn reached out to me and said, Hey, I know that you have these kits. And I was like, Hell yeah, I want to send you one. Nice. Oh, and they’re a boy, they have a boy. And they had struggled for three years. And she wasn’t quite ready to do like the actual infertility journey. And I said, Why don’t you just try this? Like, what’s the worst that’s gonna happen? You get a little inflammation gone, you feel good for you know, a while, you do this three to four times a year, you give your body a little bit of a reset and break. Why don’t try it? And she’s like, You’re right, Kim. They did, and eight weeks later, she found out she was pregnant with a boy. Oh, and the cutest kid, just the cutest son. We sent them onesies, as A. Rogers had on them. Oh, I know. So cute, just the cutest. Oh, that is so beautiful.

Sam: 23:07

What a success story. I I mean, I’ve definitely heard, you know, many women talk about that infertility before cleansing and then after cleansing, being able to conceive, and I think that’s really powerful. Um, and it and something for everyone to just keep in mind. Because if you if you are a woman, if you are a man and you have been trying and you haven’t tried cleansing yet, why not?

Kim: 23:32

Yeah, you can’t lose anything other than some worms.

Sam: 23:35

Yeah, and that’s all right. Yeah, you know, we’d like you to lose those. Yeah, kick those out. Yeah.

Kim: 23:40

I loved hearing about when we first started this journey together and I hit you up in the DMs and just having a better understanding of women because when you’ve gone through what I went through with the hysterectomy, and I I mean, they give you labels, right? So my first label was I was in chemical menopause, and that chemical menopause ate my bones. So I went into osteopenia because when you don’t have the estrogen and you aren’t actually creating calcium, I actually um in parts of my body I had osteoporosis. So I used cordyceps mushrooms because of the osteoporosis, and when I got retested, I went into osteopenia, and now I have a very sound bone structure now. And so my bones at one point were like a 65-year-old’s bones.

Sam: 24:32

So once again, mushies, mushies, we love the mushies because functional mushrooms do so much. They really do.

Kim: 24:40

Okay, so going back to when you hit me up in the DMs. Yes. When well, I hit you up in the DMs. So I slid into Sam’s DMs and I was like, hey girl, so have you cleansed yet? And she’s like, I’m getting ready to do a group cleanse. And I’m like, well, let’s Rogers Hood sponsor your group cleanse. In true Kim fashion. Yes. So I found out how bad your woman time was. And I didn’t know that. And then I remember you hitting me up after and you were like, Have you heard anyone else talk about when they do your cleanse that all of a sudden you feel better during your woman time?

Sam: 25:17

The cycles get easier.

Kim: 25:19

Yeah, yeah. And I hadn’t because I don’t, I’m not in that world because I’ve had I’m in metopause, right? I’m in a different world. And so it was just really a cool thing to get that feedback.

Sam: 25:30

Oh, yeah. And it wasn’t just me. I have multiple friends who we all agree the same thing. And even the friend I told you about that she like wiped and what came out with her, you know, cycle. So I mean, they’re they were definitely in there, and so that absolutely makes it worse. But I mean, on top of just worms and parasites, think about lightening your toxic load of heavy metals, of bad bacteria, of candida, of yeast, oh yeah, of viruses, of all of this stuff, mucus, of all of this stuff that causes inflammation and causes the body to be in a toxic state. Well, the cycle time, like your actual period time, is your body detoxing. That’s a woman’s time to detox. It the uterus sheds its lining and you’re actually cleansing out all of this stuff. So, of course, the heavier your toxic load, I just common sense to me says that’s gonna be a more painful, long, drawn-out time of suffering because you have so much of a toxic load. So I definitely noticed that lightened my load, made everything smoother, made everything better. But I want to also touch on this because you mentioned earlier you did you got on depot. Yeah. I also got on depot. Now, listen, Satan, birth control is it is its own whole world. And I want to dive in because it’s been a part of my life since I was a teenager, and I tried everything. The pills made me feel absolutely crazy. They affected me mentally so badly that I was like, it was a very obvious no, that can’t be a part of my life. There’s no way. I did the patches, like there were patches like you put on your arm or your butt cheek. I did the depot shot, which in my opinion messed me up so badly. It blew me up. I’ve always been a smaller human, smaller build, all of that. But it’s it made me so swollen. It also changed my personality. I remember the shift. I remember in real time during it, I didn’t know. But hindsight, I for sure can tell and know that it changed my personality. It made me lazier. It made me not want to move.

Kim: 27:47

It actually causes, it pauses your body from doing what it’s supposed to do. Oh. That’s why.

Sam: 27:53

Okay, so you could maybe provide me more insight then into why this happened, but I want to explain what happened in case anyone else out there is possibly on depot and if you’re experiencing any of these symptoms, like it, it made me, it took the motivation and my my ump for life out of me. It I was super active before I got on it. I was like active also in extra uh curricular activities like theater, choir, choir, like after school stuff. Like I was a senior in high school and I was like super involved. And right when I started getting that, A, it stops your period. So you don’t bleed. And to me as a woman, I just know how necessary that time is every month. It’s so part of the way our bodies are built and created. Like the it’s the way that they’re designed. And so it’s part of you know, a healthy, it’s a healthy thing to bleed every month. And so having like, you know, if you have something going on with you that’s preventing that from happening, oh, that’s one thing. But put injecting something in that stops it, in my opinion, that was one of like the worst things I could have done. I agree a hundred percent.

Kim: 29:02

Cause I we’re gonna come right back. Yeah, I got on it when I was 14 years old. 14 because I didn’t want to get pregnant, because all the kids around me, all of my friends, all the girls that we lived in a small town, nothing to do, drink, drugs, sex, and people were popping kids. 13, 14, 15-year-old girls. Yeah. So I immediately got on depot. And I know that that immediate getting on depot really hurt me.

Sam: 29:32

Yeah. Oh, it hurt me for sure. It messed up my metabolism, definitely. Yeah, it made me more hungry. All I wanted to do was like go to school. I like, I cut my schedule down to the most minimal amount of hours. Like, I didn’t want to do anything extra at all. I was like, but what’s the most minimum I can do? Did that, then after school, I would only want to go get fast food, go home, eat it, watch TV, and not do anything. And it like made me like isolate and stay inside and not want to go outside, not be social, not want to do anything. And then I wouldn’t have a cycle. So I like in a year and a half, I gained like a lot of pounds and a lot of inflammation, and I was swollen. And the highest I got up to, I think, was like 154. And for me, that’s that’s that’s like 30 pounds higher than what I am naturally, like in my like fit, healthy space. And so I’m like, what is it? Like it just it was it was terrible.

Kim: 30:22

Well, you need those hormones to process food and toxins, and like you need that hormone, and then you need to shed. Yeah, you have to, yeah, and when you pause that, it’s really an issue, and then your body goes into like it thinks it’s pregnant, and then it doesn’t know, and so then it produces different hormones, and then and then you get off of it and you don’t, it doesn’t really know which way to go. And so there really is like a purpose for it in a sense, and not, yeah, you know what I mean? Like for me, I did it because I didn’t want to have a child under the age of 18 and I was sexually active.

Sam: 31:00

If you would have just had more information and education at the time, you would have been able to choose something that wouldn’t have harmed you as much to have the same outcome. Yeah. So I definitely want to dive into natural form of birth control that I’ve been using now for a long time. That is it’s been 100% effective for me. 100% across the board. Not medical advice, not medical advice. This is my personal advice.

Kim: 31:28

This is exactly what Sam’s been doing. So really be conscientious and she follows it to a T. She really is invested in this. And so I just I just want to give that disclaimer because it’s really important to know that like when you’re ready and you’re trying or you’re not trying, that like just gotta be careful.

Sam: 31:48

That’s it. Yep. And this is just my personal experience, but for me, it’s been 100% effective and it’s completely natural. And it’s literally just understanding and completely knowing the body, my body, and how it works. And it’s tracking my ovulation, it’s tracking my LH surge and using science for the timing of the body and how the reproductive system for a woman works to time out when I’m fertile and when I’m not. So I use an app called Natural Cycles. I love it because it allows me to test, I test LH surge strips on the days leading up to when I’m like getting closer to surging. And I pee on these strips, and the LH surge will show me when I’m surging. When I have a positive, I insert that photo into natural cycles and it it records it as positive. The natural cycles is connected to my aura ring and my aura data, and that tracks my temp, my temperature. So once natural cycles has inside that I have LH surge, it now is waiting for aura data to tell it when my temperature spikes and stays risen. And that is when ovulation has happened, and now I’m in the luteal phase leading up to bleeding. There’s a window of time for a woman like me who has like a regular either like 27 to 32 day cycle. There’s a window of time, it’s only a short window of time that I actually can even get pregnant. I didn’t know that before. If I would have known that when I was a teenager, I would have not, A, I would have not tried all of these birth controls for so many years that really did mess with my hormones, that mess with my mental and my emotional state, that mess with my skin, that mess with all this stuff. I mean, I was so desperate even in these past 13 years of being a natural woman that I was like, all right, I’ll go with the copper IUD because it doesn’t have hormones. And oh my gosh, when I had that copper IUD, my uterus would scream at me.

Kim: 34:05

It’s a foreign object.

Sam: 34:07

Oh, it would scream out of me out of nowhere in the middle of the month. It would just like scream and basically it was telling, it was, it was, I think it was trying to push it out because it thought it was, yeah, like so it was like trying to contract a phone. Right? And it was just like very obvious my body did not want it in. I would even have dreams, and you know me in my dream world, and like my dreams are very connected to everything in my life. But my dreams would even in my dreams, I would see a big copper tea and it would be shooting copper out. It was just shooting liquid copper out. And I woke up, I’m like, do I have like cop? Am I like, do I have like copper like overdose or something? I need to like, I need to get this thing out of me. It it was so painful, and I didn’t even realize the amount of pain I was tolerating for the few months that I had it in until I got it out. And I went, oh, I can’t believe what I was tolerating just to have this device in me. Now, again, this is just totally personal to me and my experience, but my I tried everything, is what I’m getting at. And as a natural woman, there’s only so much you can do if you, if you, if you don’t, if your body doesn’t agree with birth control. Yeah. So I have discovered and learned this method through Dr. Giles, who is your doctor, your family doctor.

Kim: 35:19

We had her on, you should watch that.

Sam: 35:20

She was the go tap in season two, episode one with Dr. Juliana Giles, check it out. Yes, go back and check it out. She’s absolutely incredible and she’s so wise and she really understands the woman’s body and how it works. And she just basically broke down and taught me how it works. And she said it’s really simple. As long as you really stay committed, dedicated, learn it, and track it, it can’t fail you because it’s how the body works. So there’s a timing to it. It’s science. It’s literally there’s a window that you surge and it’s this specific hormone that spikes and it spikes right before you ovulate. So then you know when you surge, then you know you’re about to ovulate. And then you know after ovulation has passed, I give myself a good 24 to 48 like hours after ovulation has passed to be safe, like 48 full hours after. And then I know I’m in the free and clear until I bleed. I know I’m no longer fertile because I already ovulated, the egg was already released and not fertilized, and I’m good to go. And I don’t have to stress, I don’t have to like wonder, worry, nothing like that. And it’s a it’s like information that if I would have had when I was younger, it would have changed so much of my life as a woman. And it would have made my life as a woman so much easier and less stressful, everything surrounding reproductive and sex and sexual health and cycles. So it’s something I wish I knew a lot earlier. So that’s I definitely wanted to share that. So natural cycles comes in clutch. You need those LH surge strips if you do it this way because they’re like everything. That piece of data is the most reliable piece in the whole thing because it’s even more reliable than Aura. I don’t listen. Yeah, I don’t know. Yeah, you’re labbing it up. Lab at home. It’s so you know exactly what’s going on. I don’t listen to Aura. Um, they haven’t dialed it in fully all the way yet. Every month that they say when I ovulated, when I actually check it against the real data of that at home lab LH surge strip, it doesn’t match up. So I only use aura for my temperature to confirm that I’m it’s raised and it’s staying raised. And that means I’m in luteal and I’m on my way to bleeding. And so it’s pretty amazing. I really love being able to use modern technology along with science and a biological understanding and understanding of my body and how it works. It’s liberating, it’s so liberating to know how it works and work with it. Yeah. Yeah.

Kim: 37:47

I’m so proud of you though, to learn all of this. For some reason, we’re just not taught, right? For some reason, we don’t understand how our bodies work. And it’s a whole nother language. Yeah. Well, you speak a whole nother language when you end up learning about your body.

Speaker 2: 38:04

Yeah.

Kim: 38:05

I mean, we Latin, you have to learn all these words, but like for you to stop and go, what else can I do for my body to make my quality of life better and to allow me to be successful when I am ready to have a child and not be, you know, not understanding.

Sam: 38:26

Yeah, and then know how to not until I want to. Yeah. Because that’s the other thing. When I like years ago was researching like LH surging, tracking ovulation, everything like just a couple of years ago was all about only for women who are trying. I’m like, what about for us women who are trying not to? Like, let’s be, let’s have us, let’s have a voice too. Like, you know, and and Western medicine pharmaceutical birth control is not the only answer. It’s not good. The side effects.

Kim: 38:53

That’s the thing. What you’re doing has zero.

Sam: 38:56

Literally, it’s a hundred percent natural.

Kim: 38:58

All of us have done or are being required to do the side effects of what I had to go through when I was 29 to where I’m at now, it’s wild.

Sam: 39:09

Yeah.

Kim: 39:09

It’s wild how many health issues I have because my body doesn’t have that, you know, progesterone and estrogen, like it really just doesn’t perform like a normally a normal woman of my age should. And so to be able to have a natural alternative that has zero side effects.

Sam: 39:29

Zero side effects. And when I when I I have only completely stuck to it, but it’s literally been 100% effective. That’s like wild to me. It’s been like a year, right? Yeah, that I’ve been using it. You’ve been using it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it’s it’s like, yeah, it’s amazing. So I I I wanted to let women know that there is options. And if you do want more info on that, look in Kim’s link, uh link tree in her bio under Practitioners, and you can find Dr. Juliana Giles if you want to dive more. Into that or anything, hormones like she’s an awesome doctor, you can definitely reach out to.

Kim: 40:04

We’ll link the website below so that you guys can kind of go and research and see. And I don’t think at this point in women’s lives and where we’re at, is that we have as many choices as we would like to have, specifically more natural choices, right? And I felt very much in my time when I was going through all of this that I had no choices, that I had zero choices. And I feel like that’s one reason why I’m so loud about this, because hey, you have options.

Sam: 40:37

There’s other things you haven’t heard of, there’s other things you haven’t treated.

Kim: 40:40

Before you make a life-altering surgery or decision, because even the lupron that I was put on, which they say is a form of chemo, it ate some of my bones. I have teeth issues because of it. I also heard, and I haven’t done a lot of research, that endo is a bacteria, endometriosis is a bacteria in your mouth. And let me tell you, I have a lot of different bacteria in my mouth that, like, even my holistic biological dentist, when he does a bacterial swab, he’s like, ooh, there are some things. I have lime in my mouth. I have lime. Like I know looking back now that if I could have had some sort of a parasite test, mold test, or Lyme test, that I know my options wouldn’t have been, you need a hysterectomy. Oh, and by the way, you’re going to have repeated surgeries. I mean, it’s not a little surgery. They have to, it, it’s just so much that it’s hard to even explain what 13 surgeries over my 20 years of my life that I’ve had that did to me. Just the anesthetics alone change your personality.

Sam: 41:43

I’m sure. And then even like you, like you’ve told me before, how they fill you up with gas before. And like there’s so much to it. It’s so much trauma around the game.

Kim: 41:50

And they didn’t even tell me, by the way, if you ever do have a laparoscopic surgery, they never tell you that you’re gonna have gas. So get gas X. What they do is they fill you full of gas to be able to get in there and clean and get what they need done because they’re going in with a scope.

Sam: 42:04

Because it like it balloons you up.

Kim: 42:05

Yeah, you you just blow completely up and then they try and deflate you to the best of your ability and to the best of their ability, but they for forget to tell you that one, it’s gonna escape out of your left clavicle. Oh my God. So it so it escapes out of your left clavicle and it’s so painful. It feels like you’re having a heart attack. Well, I ended up in the emergency room after my first surgery. And when I got in there, I didn’t tell them I had just room left out of surgery. And so I hear cold blue in room 319. And I’m like, I’m 319. Oh no. I’m okay. I’m not, I’m not code blue in it, you know? And she comes in and she’s like, You’re fine. And I go, Well, yeah. And she goes, it looks like you had an organ explode. And I said, Well, I had surgery. And she goes, Oh, well, that explains everything. They fill you full of gas. The feeling you’re having is escaping of the gas through your left clavicle. And from that day forward, I always got gas X. Well, and they used to have like the strips, so it was instant, but I take the chewables whenever I so that’s a tip. So just know, yeah. You gotta get gas X if you ever have any surgery, period. Not just this surgery, just any surgery because they usually fill you full of gas. And then if you feel like you’re having a heart attack, it’s just the gas escaping. Kim Rogers tip right there. Oh my gosh, guys. Well, when I did the ozone gas and had something come out of me, I literally felt the same. It pulled me right back to a surgery because the ozone gas filled me and escaped out of my left. So I was like, oh my gosh. So I just feel like looking back, I have no regret. If I had regrets, I wouldn’t be here, right? I don’t look back and think, oh, I wish I hadn’t done this. I have three beautiful nieces that I’ve been able to take like a part in their life to help raise them.

Sam: 43:58

And you’ve done a wonderful job.

Kim: 44:00

Oh, thanks. They’re awesome. They’re such good kids. I just love them so much. Actually, Vegas is our social media coordinator. And she’s here and she’s here, and she got to see Jonesboro. We’re in Jonesboro. And so she got to see the shop and she got to do all the things, but she works closely because she’s been so involved in this with me over the last, you know, my whole life, her whole life. She’s 22. But anyway, I just feel like there’s so many other options for women nowadays, and you’re not just stuck in a corner of like, oh my God, I’m alone. Because chronically ill, you’re alone.

Speaker 2: 44:35

Yeah.

Kim: 44:35

And to be honest with you, it’s not even just about when you get out of it. I still struggle to this day. Right? Just because I’ve healed my body and I’m in a different space doesn’t mean that that darkness isn’t still there.

Sam: 44:50

Also, just because you don’t have ovaries and a uterus doesn’t mean that your body still doesn’t remember them and she has phantom reproductive organs. So let’s talk, let’s tap on that for a second because I thought that was brilliant. Shout out to Dr. Cone, but let’s tap on it.

Kim: 45:06

Okay, so I get a lot of hip problems, and I know my lime affects my joints, so I usually just say that’s what it is. And we were in Orange County a couple of months ago, and it was really unfortunate because I was in so much pain. And so he’s an energy worker. He’s just really great. If you guys are in Orange County, Dr. Cone at Cone Institute, fabulous. We talk about him all the time because he’s so great. And so I went and saw him at like eight o’clock one night because I just couldn’t take the pain anymore. And I’m like, do your magic, Doc. And so he said, Kim, I think you’re having phantom pain from your ovaries not there. And I think it happens like once a month. And I’m like, oh my God, I never even thought about that.

Sam: 45:48

Okay. What’s so wild about that? And then we brought it up to Motley and Dr. Motley, shout out to Dr. Motley. And it just had him on too. Yeah. So check out check out the episode with Dr. Motley. We released that one. He taught us how to tune our body’s frequency to heal. But we talked about it with him and we we because basically it’s the idea that even though you don’t have the organs anymore, you still have a monthly cycle. So her body still remembers that she had the organs and she’s still a human woman and and she still goes through these things. So sometimes when she gets into a space of like extra emotional, extra sensitive, extra tired, or whatever, she could possibly be still like PMSing before the phantom period. And I thought that was like mind-blowing when Cone called it phantom ovaries.

Kim: 46:39

Mind-blowing. And I think at one point I texted you, because again, I’ve never bonded with a woman because in this way, because I don’t talk about it. Like most women that have their periods. You guys, you know, you talk, you sync up or whatever. We have little huddles about that.

Sam: 46:59

We have we have women period huddles about it. We have clubs at night where we get together and talk about it.

Kim: 47:08

I mean, just coming from like I hear you guys, and I’m sitting there and I’m like, I mean, I don’t really like it. We’re like, totally don’t relate. I don’t relate at all. Yeah, yeah. I did relate with Sam one day because she said, I felt this way. And I said, I think that way too.

Sam: 47:23

And I said, I think we may sync up because we’re so close. We are together all the time. And even if we’re not physically together, we’re always connected. And so I think we do sync up just like women do that have cycles to a degree. So yeah, if I’m extra emotional, I’ll reach out and ask you how you’re doing.

Kim: 47:43

It’s just a I think, I think looking back at all of this, right? And just I don’t feel bad that I had endometriosis. Like at first, when this started, I was pissed. And I was like, How dare you do this to me? Like, it really changed my whole life. It changed what college I went to, it changed what jobs I had because I knew I had to have surgeries every two years to really keep me living somewhat of a quality of life and not bleeding out. Because when I say I bled a lot, that is really what stopped me from continuing to try and not have a hysterectomy because I would bleed so much.

Sam: 48:23

You can’t even imagine the iron deficiency.

Kim: 48:26

Oh, terrible, terrible iron deficiency. And I didn’t eat meat either, right? I was totally not. Supplementing with iron? No, just supplementing in my 20s. No, of course. You know, I was in Western medicine. I was known to get iron infusions and blood infusions because I literally, or blood transplant or, you know, iron infusions, I was looking at getting those, but I ended up having hysterectomy instead. I mean, ultimately, that was my where I needed to be. It just really was.

Sam: 48:58

Do you think if you would have known about parasite cleansing back then in your 20s, if you would have parasite cleansed and gotten the worms and the parasites and the toxic load and the environmental toxins out, do you think it could have prevented you from having the hysterectomy or any of those surgeries? Yes. Wow.

Kim: 49:22

Without a shadow of a doubt. If ParaFy existed, 100% positive.

Sam: 49:27

100%.

Kim: 49:28

I’m 100%. I will never waver from that. I believe without a hundred percent doubt that if I had the opportunity to have parasite cleansed with ParaFy or any antiparasitics, that I would not have needed a hysterectomy nor 13 surgeries. And I that is a hill I will stand on and die. And I say that because I know what I saw, I know how I felt, and I know exactly what was going on in my body looking backwards. I get goosebumps when I think about it, and it really is what changed the trajectory of my life and everyone around me now. And I say this because the pain I had on the right side that indicated that my endo was back went away within three days of me doing my first parasite cleanse, and that’s when I dumped roundworm, flukes, and pin worms. And I also have some other things that eventually I’m gonna share, but I know without a shadow of a doubt, I would not have needed a hysterectomy if I had done ParaFy parasite cleansing, and I designed it specifically for that reason. I immediately got started.

Sam: 50:43

That is that day. That is so powerful. That’s a beautiful place to wrap this episode up because if that’s not a testament and just such a powerful message, like please, if you’re hearing this, if you haven’t parasite cleansed yet, please, please, please go to rogershead.com. We even have a code for you. You can use what’s eating you. We spell it what’s eating in the letter U, and you can get 10% off all of the cleanses at Rogershead.com, but lighten your toxic load, get those environmental toxins out. Please, ladies, get those parasites and worms out of your reproductive organs. What a gentle cleanse. Very gentle, but very effective. And it’s just such a powerful thing that can be a solution for a lot of people that you may have not tried yet.

Speaker 2: 51:36

Yeah.

Sam: 51:36

And you do have options. You do have options when it comes to birth control. You do have options when it comes to your own sexual reproductive health. So please, please, please do your research before just listening to a Western medicine doctor or listening to anyone telling you that there’s only one way because there’s not. And our bodies are very powerful and they’re self-healing and they’re very strong and they’re very resilient. And using nature as medicine and using things like the ParaFy parasite cleanse. Not just the ParaFy clean. Okay. What else?

Kim: 52:08

The LymF Kit. Okay. So the LymF Kit has turkey tail in it and lion’s mane. And I designed it this way so you could take it prior to the ParaFy cleanse and during the ParaFy cleanse, and you can take it after. And I do suggest that if you do have any hormonal issues or anything we’ve been talking about, you take it for life. The way that we double extract our turkey tail and our lion’s mane, you get the most potent out of it. And it’s because we double extract our mushrooms. And those tinctures being double extracted, we’re getting the medicine from it alcohol ways, and then we’re getting it from water. And so I would not be here the way that I am sitting and the way that I’ve healed without turkey tail and lion’s mane. And the LymF Kit, I made it simple. I made it simple. It’s three tinctures and a binder. I love it’s the same thing as oh, it’s so good. It’s so good. You drain everything. It really is about just clearing these toxins, but specifically turkey tail.

Sam: 53:09

LymF is so the LymF Kit is so supportive. Yeah. It is so supportive. That’s why it can be taken at any time, before, during, after. Like she just said, if you’ve experienced anything we talked about on this episode, take it for life. The LymF Kit. It’s a lifer.

Kim: 53:25

And I’m just grateful I have the facility to be able to make my own mushroom tinctures because I do take mushrooms every day. They changed the trajectory of my health, my mind. But specifically, I added turkey tail into the LymF Kit to break down scar tissue and to help people maintain a more quality of life.

Sam: 53:48

That’s so beautiful. Good job, friend. I mean, yeah. Your whole journey, honestly, it’s it’s really it’s kind of like more obvious to me than ever now what’s fueling all of this, what’s behind all this, you know? It’s really beautiful. Every time you open up and share any part of your story or journey, like it’s really cool, man. And I respect it a lot. And thank you for making all the noise that you make. And I’m so much noise.

Kim: 54:13

200 million women, man. Like seriously around the world. Like it’s so frustrating to me to think that I had to go through all of this and I had to experience this type of pain that like no one should have to do. No woman should have to go through what I’ve gone through. So if I have to stand that way with everyone, I will.

Sam: 54:47

Thanks. Yeah, because no, knowing that there are natural things like functional mushrooms that can help so much. So, so much. That’s a really powerful piece of information. So thanks, Kim, for going through everything you went through to uh spark your mission and help as many people as you have. And I’m so proud and honored to be right here with you making all the noise. Same to you, Sam.

Kim: 55:10

I’m so proud of you. Thanks. Really, I know this was um one that you really wanted to do. So I’m so grateful that it’s a very good idea. It’s important to talk about it.

Sam: 55:17

So important. We’ve been affects you too. So yeah, we’ve had this one planned for quite a while. So we’re so happy to get this information out to you guys. Thank you so much for tuning in to another episode. Please remember to like, subscribe, drop a comment below, drop a comment about anything that you’re going through, anything that resonated in this episode, any questions you have, please drop a comment below. Give us a thumbs up, share with your loved ones, subscribe. It helps us, it helps get this message out there further. We love you guys so very much. Until next time. Thanks everyone