Live Replay: Modalities | Bridging The Gap Between Traditional & Western Medicine

Sam Bruno: 0:00

Ooh, we’re talking, talking about what’s eating you We’re talking about what’s eating you. Go to a clinic or a facility to use to free ones or cheap ones you can use at home. We really want to help you guys be able to maximize tools that are available today that will help you to really feel your best and optimize your health and well-being.

Kim Rogers: 0:52

Just answering some questions. Any help for having regular BMs? Absolutely. For sure. It will start to work itself out. Everybody that’s done the kit has talked about how they become more regular and then they feel better and you know if you’re not regular you just want to be conscientious of the binder because that’s what it is is it’s binding you up but sometimes when you have die-offs that’s a constipation is part of a die-off so just keep going keep uh using coffee enemas if you can do colonics

Sam Bruno: 1:24

water enemas

Kim Rogers: 1:26

yeah and then i had a question here that said lime mold and parasites i mean i have lime mold and parasites and this is this is what i do we’re literally showcasing like everything that I’ve done to get myself healthier. So parasites was my first tackle. Mold was my second. And I have chronic Lyme. And, you know, you’re going to have flares. I’m in a flare right now. You just have to kind of know what your modalities are. And you rely on those. You rely on the cleanses. You rely on red light. You rely on Enema is like you really use what you’re doing to make sure that you continue to stay on a good pace.

Sam Bruno: 2:06

I just want to say you look really good for being in a fire.

Kim Rogers: 2:10

Thanks. Thanks. It’s

Sam Bruno: 2:11

been healthy. You look grounded. You look balanced. You still got that beautiful skin. Yeah, you look good. You look like you are feeling better. Yeah.

Kim Rogers: 2:21

You know, I mean, I feel like people that are chronically ill and, you know, I’m going to use this word, even though it’s like a frequency because I am chronically ill. Like I have really good months and then I have times and that’s why you build your arsenal of tools.

Kim Rogers: 2:40

That’s why I have all the things I have so that right now I can’t get into my HBOT because I have something going on in my ear. And so I have to then pivot and use another modality because you can’t use that one. And so you really look at it in a holistic point of view of I’m doing these to keep me well, but if there’s a step back and people that are chronically ill get nervous and they start to go into a spiral of trauma, because we have some medical trauma, right?

Sam Bruno: 3:13

PTSD. It’s like, it’s triggers. Anytime a new flare comes up, it brings you back to all of the things prior. But I want to add this to what you said, Kim, because I agree that it’s good to be honest and acknowledge where you are because that’s the only way you can move forward. You have to be honest about where you are, but I think you can be chronically ill and chronically healing.

Kim Rogers: 3:37

Oh, at the same time. Oh, for sure. Because I know what just happened with a flare is just strengthening my body and when I look back at what my flare has been like for a couple of weeks now and what it was like before I have completely different flares now it’s handled in such a different way and so looking at that in such a big picture of things all of the things that we talk about and all of the things that we’re doing allowed me to not have such a deep flare if that makes sense to people so you just really need to like know that everything you do even though it feels exhausting and then it’s tiring when you’re doing the cleanse or you’re doing different modalities like it’s going to keep you to have, instead of a 90% bad flare, I’m now only at a 50%.

Sam Bruno: 4:30

Yay, that’s

Kim Rogers: 4:31

huge progress. Yeah, it really is. It’s a big deal when you’re able to take a little bit of a step back from chronic illness. You should be

Sam Bruno: 4:39

proud of yourself, Kim. Like, I know I’m not chronically ill. And I know that when you go through these spots, I mean, I’m your best friend. I’m close enough to you. I’ve seen it up close and personal. Like, I’ve seen you when you’re, like, thriving, no flare. like everything’s great and balanced and I’ve seen you when you’re going through one and I just have to say like I really really hope that even when you when they pop up and even if it triggers your brain and PTSD I hope that you’re really able to see how far you really have come.

Sam Bruno: 5:09

wow you are you are paradigms and light years from the log home days you know what I’m saying so I’m proud of you and I think that life is so beautiful that right now you’re just organically talking about modalities Because that’s what we’re talking about today. We are hopping on here to talk about modalities. This month on What’s Eating You, all of our episodes are modality focused. So we’re really showing you guys, we’re diving in and talking to you about everything from all of the ones that we do in our daily lives, our favorite ones, what were our first ones, how to use them, the really pricey ones to the cheap free ones at home. We’re really covering it all. So we are talking all things healing modalities in editing the episode where we’re sitting down in miami in a beautiful high rise with a beautiful view behind us it’s a really nice episode we start out the episode talking about the origin of healing modalities and i thought it was a really beautiful thing i wanted to repeat here because when we talk about it or say the word you know we’re living in modern day times where social media is like at the forefront technology you know and we all say healing modalities And my mind used to just go to like technology driven, these new advancements that we can use in science and technology to like biohack and biostack. But the origin of healing modalities is actually ancient. And they’ve been around since the beginning of time and humans have always been using them. It’s very traditional. And I also love that you use the word traditional medicine for holistic, natural approach to medicine. because the word alternative medicine has always rubbed me wrong for over a decade now i’ve been like how is it the alternative it’s if it’s the original so i love that you specifically can word it as traditional medicine and that’s really what healing modalities come from humans have been using nature and the elements for healing and i mean even down to to coffee enemas in ancient egypt ayurvedic medicine india chinese medicine african medicine like there’s so much history behind really the word healing modalities and us modern day humans have just brought it into this technological age that we live in and use these advancements.

Kim Rogers: 7:34

The modern age we’re in now, we call it biohack, right? We’re biohacking, we’re hacking into our biology to kind of make changes in order for us to get healthier and challenge the times that we’re in where we’re being bombarded with heavy metals and environmental talks allowing us to kind of go back to the homeostasis level. And that’s all that modalities are. That’s all that we’re doing is that, you know, red light is replicating what the sun is. So it’s really a replication of what we’re all supposed to be doing. We’re not really supposed to be living in moldy homes. And I did a podcast yesterday talking about that with a mold specialist that we’re living in. I think it was like 60% of our environment and our homes is moldy. So it’s like, okay, well, you’re in the house, you’re not getting the sunlight to help push the spores out of your cells, boosting your mitochondria. So we have to find ways to supplement that. And I think that we just have found those hacks, right? And that’s why it’s the biohack.

Sam Bruno: 8:42

Our ancestors used nature and the elements- to heal. Like it just is what it is. They use the plants, they use the sun, they use the cold, they use the fire, they use all of these things and the herbs to heal and water therapy and all of this. It’s like

Kim Rogers: 9:00

the whole process of how the Scandinavians, which I’m Scandinavian, like I have that cold. I think that’s why I like the hot and the cold so much. That is why

Sam Bruno: 9:11

you like it. It’s your Scandinavian blood. By the way, Kim, look at what I’m sipping right now. My dirty matcha out of. You guys, Kim got me this cute mushroom cup for my birthday.

Kim Rogers: 9:23

It’s so cute. I love the mushrooms. We’re

Sam Bruno: 9:25

mushroom people. We’re the mushroom gang. And so I get to sip my dirty matcha out of this today. Another point about cold for females that do have cycles is it’s really important to not use cold right before you start your period and for the first few days that you’re on your period. For that part of the month, it’s actually… will do the opposite effect because it will send your nervous system into fight or flight when it needs to be in rest and digest to keep you balanced during that time with your hormones and everything. So there’s like about, I would say like a, probably a six day window to be safe a few days before you start and a few days during that you shouldn’t use cold therapy. But every other day of the month, I think that it’s completely healthy. It does something for you mentally too. And we talked about that in our modality episode about certain things like cryotherapy. And cold plunge, like any of these cold therapies, they also release all of the feel-good chemicals, dopamine, endorphins. They also build new neural pathways in your brain. Anything that helps stimulate it, right? Yeah.

Kim Rogers: 10:30

Yeah, that’s what it’s doing. It’s like assisting with stimulation.

Sam Bruno: 10:33

Exactly.

Kim Rogers: 10:34

That’s cool. I didn’t know that because I don’t really study a lot of specifics for younger females because I’ve had a hysterectomy since I was 29. So I was in chemical menopause And now I’m in surgical menopause. And so I just never really correlated how much that can affect you even after you have a hysterectomy. So I really,

Sam Bruno: 10:58

yeah,

Kim Rogers: 10:59

it’s just not studied. Like it’s just women’s health is so understudied. Yeah. And it’s kind of cool to see some of these females stepping into the limelight because there just isn’t a lot of it.

Sam Bruno: 11:11

Let’s go back to the cold for a second because I want to ask you, what is your favorite cold modality?

Kim Rogers: 11:17

I mean, cold plunge and probably ozone cold plunge because it’s stacking multiple things onto one. But I definitely like cold plunge enough that like if we ever moved, I would make sure we had a cold plunge in our new location because I do so much better if I’m able to. I’ll do a cold shower in the mornings at the end. Do you

Sam Bruno: 11:37

do that every time you shower? Oh,

Kim Rogers: 11:40

every time.

Sam Bruno: 11:40

How long have you been doing that?

Kim Rogers: 11:42

For about six years.

Sam Bruno: 11:45

Every time you get in the shower, no matter if it’s dead winter or not,

Kim Rogers: 11:49

at the

Sam Bruno: 11:50

end of your shower, you turn it to

Kim Rogers: 11:51

cold. Every time. That’s how my skin is so

Sam Bruno: 11:54

good.

Kim Rogers: 11:55

I don’t… Two to three minutes. It’s like I’ll wash my hair, I’ll rinse my body off, and then I stand in the cold because it helps rebalance you. And if you’re having anxiety, if you can’t get out of your head, it’s the best thing. Hop in a cold shower for two to three minutes. It will completely shift your mindset. Which is

Sam Bruno: 12:15

actually wild because you would think… You know, when you get anxiety, you feel shivery and cold, you would think that it would do the opposite. But you’re saying it actually will like,

Kim Rogers: 12:27

does it like shock your system? Have a modality that is at your house already that you don’t really have to think about it. Yeah, it focuses on your vagus nerve. It helps reset it because you’re changing. I use cold water when I wash my face. Because it keeps your body strengthened, it allows you to change that core temperature and your body refocuses. You will actually stop your anxiety attack if you went and got yourself in a cold shower.

Sam Bruno: 13:14

Wow, that’s really good to know. Everybody, that’s like a really good note to take. like panic attack interruption. Yeah. Shower. So I use cold therapy for anti-inflammatory and cyro.

Sam Bruno: 13:26

You know what? I think it’s because I don’t love to be soaking wet in the water in the cold. I’d rather be dry in the cold. I really think that’s why. And to be honest, I’m not going to even front or lie to you guys. Cold plunge is hard as every time I get in my feet feel like they’re gonna fall off they like hurt but I still do it I still get in I still breathe through it even if the inside of myself is freaking out telling every part of me is telling me to get out I still stick with it for as long as I can but funny you brought up the shiver because when I got out I wasn’t shivering and Dave was like oh Sam because he knows me well shout out to David mother nature’s remedy we love him

Sam Bruno: 14:08

He’s great he was like you could have done five and I was like okay but that was enough for I’m proud of myself. That was good enough for now. He’s like, but next time I want you to do it until you shiver. So he is aware of that too. So I’m glad you brought that up.

Kim Rogers: 14:22

Well, and that’s why that specific, I think it’s called Renew. That specific cold plunge is such a great thing because not all cold plunges are like that. You have to force yourself to move the water. And so I think people don’t realize that when you get in the cold, immediately your body’s defense mechanism is to put a thermal barrier up because the reason why cold does what it does is your body thinks it’s dying. And so it automatically kicks you out of sympathetic and puts you into parasympathetic so that you can be in rest and digest to allow your body to completely reset. And so it’s a whole thing. And so when you’re able to move the water, which your body will not do, like consciously your body will not move that water.

Sam Bruno: 15:12

Actually, you’re right because I’ve done an ice bath before so there’s no like jets moving the water like you stay still yeah so that makes sense so I didn’t realize that that’s why having the jets moving the water actually amplifies it makes it more effective essentially

Kim Rogers: 15:28

and it’ll make you shiver so that’s why I’m like okay I heard that this is a thing where you have to have it at 55 to make yourself shiver however if you have a cold plunge like Dave’s where it has ozone, and it’s moving for you at a high speed, do you still need to have it at 55 degrees? No, I don’t think you do. Like, I think that that is something that not a lot of people have actually been around as far as a cold plunge goes. And most people just get in and sit.

Kim Rogers: 16:00

So that’s why I’m like, okay, like, I totally think that at 55, that makes complete sense. However, there’s also this extra modality that can be added to the cold plunge. And so if you’re in a cold plunge or you’re even in the shower and you keep yourself moving while doing it i mean like being silly

Sam Bruno: 16:19

okay it’s why when we get in cryotherapy you dance in place run in place

Kim Rogers: 16:25

because i want to break the thorough barrier the thermal barrier is it’s just your body it’s automatic it’s instant the moment you start to feel cold it puts like this energetic layer on your body and so it’s protecting its most valuable asset right your skin because because that’s the first place when you get frostbite that it eats at it so it’s really like doing its job by putting that defense mechanism up but you’re trying to break that defense mechanism so you can go to the next layer of things which is your lymphatic system and your nervous system and really resetting that

Sam Bruno: 16:58

this is all really great information kim and this is all new to me so i’m so glad you’re adding all of this on because it’s gonna just take people’s knowledge like further when they know why they’re doing the cold therapy and how to actually like do it the most effective you know I love that we’re talking about water though so let’s segue a little bit into more water modalities

Kim Rogers: 17:20

well every 15 minutes you absorb two cups of water if not a little bit more every 15 minutes so if you’re in the shower you’re absorbing everything in that water so you can use water as a as a tool because you can go and you can do things like fulvic soak you’re absorbing all of that immediately into your body. It is two cups every 15 minutes and everything in that water is being absorbed into your body. So if you are soaking in our tap water, which is heavy metals, pharmaceuticals, parasites, spores, bacteria, and viruses, you’re absorbing all of that. Literally, you are a washcloth and then you get out and you don’t get to wring all of that out. You don’t get to have the opportunity to remove it from your body. It’s already been absorbed in your body. Yes. So it’s just kind of a different thought process for people because I don’t think they realize that water is really of importance. So when you’re in something like an ozone cold plunge, you’re not just getting your lymphatic system moving, but you’re also absorbing the ozone that goes into your blood and allows you to break down bacteria. And if you have pesticides, heavy metals, ozone is pretty powerful. We talk about it all the time with using Therasage’s ozone bubbler to clean our produce. I have a Thorosage ozone bubbler machine that I make water with and the machine’s a hundred bucks and you can use it for your produce as well as making oils and making water. I

Sam Bruno: 18:53

use it for water enemas. Yeah. And also I also put it in my Navaj neti pot. Oh yeah. Yeah. So I put the ozone water in the Navaj with the saline pack. And of course a few drops of paraffy. Um, sometimes that adds the same to there. Honestly, I I feel into it intuitively and I’ll use any of Rogers hood tincture drops in there. I’m like, get up in there, please. And then I’ll flush my nasal pathways with ozone water. So it’s like, we really are talking about biohacking stacking because we’re talking about, it’s like, okay, how can we take a modality, but actually like supercharge it and take it a step further by adding in another one or adding something to it that makes it even more effective or even more efficient, or you’re getting way more out of it in less amount of time. Like for example, we’re red light therapy right so you are a huge fan of we both are because you taught me how to use the red light with castor oil and prior to you teaching me that I would use a red light on its own I would do castor oil pats on their own but when you combine the two together it’s penetrating the castor oil how much deeper like

Kim Rogers: 20:00

seven to eight times deeper into your body

Sam Bruno: 20:04

that’s a no-brainer like we are busy humans like you and I are busy busy busy but everybody’s busy life is busy modern life is busy and people, their energy is in high demand. Like everyone has so much happening at once. It’s like, how do we remember how to drink this much water every day and take these supplements and do these modalities and do this? Well, when we find these hacks that we can stack and do multiple things at once, then you’re really getting the most out of it. And it’s like in 15 minutes, you can do three things at one time instead of one. First of all, it’s 1.11. Second of all, I have to just take a moment and and acknowledge you, Kim. When I tell you I am impressed by you and you are so inspiring, those words don’t even encompass really because for you to have the chronic illnesses, multiple people, she doesn’t just have one thing. This woman has so many different things. She has a plethora of okay for you to have all of these things simultaneously building a company that the foundation of it is to help people feel better and heal through cleansing and using natural herbs to better their health this is your whole mission in life is to get all this out here not only have you done that simultaneously which is more than a full-time job kim literally never sleeps she probably literally works 23 hours a day okay on top of being Yeah, I think so.

Sam Bruno: 22:06

on only being chronically ill that we’re here making just as much noise being like you can also chronically heal there are solutions there are remedies nature provides them modern technology provides them so we’re just here making noise and we’re using our platform what’s eating you our podcast to help get the word out to you guys and let you know what you can do to feel better because that’s the whole point each one teach one and we’re here to do that but if it wasn’t for kim rogers choosing to live and choosing to dedicate her life to helping other people heal and live. We wouldn’t be here having this conversation right now. So much respect to you.

Kim Rogers: 22:43

Thanks. I appreciate those words. That’s so nice. Like, what else could I do? You know, like I have this knowledge. I do a lot of research and I know that I personally want some medical reform. And so I know at the end of the day, that is really what my goal is. And I’m going to start talking more about it because it really is concerning to me as one, an American, two, human And three, someone who got classically trained in medicine, that I can’t go to every doctor or any doctor and not get tested correctly. And I think this last trip that I had, that I had to have them look in my ear because I’ve got something going on in one of my ears. And the urgent care doctor looked at it and had no idea what he was looking at. And to me, it was shocking because as soon as he started describing it, I was like, oh, that’s yeast in mold. And that’s easily fixable. And I looked at him and I said, well, I have mold poisoning and I have systematic candida. And he looked at me and he goes, well, what does that have anything to do with it? And I go, because yeast and mold can grow on your eardrum. And this is a crevice that it can come out of. And I looked at him and I’m like, I just need antifungal eardrops with some antibiotics. I’m like, who’s the doctor here? And it’s just shocking to me. So I came home and I sat down And I looked at Jeremy and I go, why can’t I be tested with a legitimate, not that the people out there aren’t legitimate, but I would like to be able to go to a Western medicine doctor and I would like to be tested for mold, Lyme, and parasites, and I’d like it on the books. And it’s not that difficult. And so, of course, being who I am, I sat down and I wrote the entire curriculum of how we can get this into our Western medicine society curriculum, how we can actually implement this and the requirements because that’s what I used to do for a living. I used to implement different CEUs into Western medicine. And so a lot of things you’re doing like electronic medical records, I helped implement that into medicine. And so I’m like, okay, so am I going to go and do this reform? Like, is this what the ultimate goal is at the end of the day is to be able to use this platform and allow my voice that because I personally and professionally in this situation. It’s so stressful to go to doctors. I totally get it.

Sam Bruno: 25:15

It’s like they’re so disconnected, man. You are bridging the gap, Kim. Between traditional medicine and Western medicine, you’re bridging the gap. That’s definitely a huge part of your purpose. It’s very obvious. So happy to be getting it out there because it should be mandatory.

Kim Rogers: 25:33

It should be. It’s not even that difficult, to be honest with you, for everyone to do a mandatory continuing education that you have to do every year anyway for your license. I know that the next three to four podcasts that I’m going on, I purposefully picked them and I’m flying to see them and do it in person with an agenda in the back of my head in my mind. And so, yeah, I feel like I can talk about parasites and worms and mold and lime and a lot of people in making laws and changing the way we do things It has to have a solution at the end. And so in order for you to go to Congress or go to a lawmaker or make any of these changes, you have to give them the steps. So you have to tell them the problem. You have to tell them a solution. And you have to tell them how they can implement that solution.

Sam Bruno: 26:28

Basically, you have to take all thinking out of the equation for them and give them an entire plan.

Kim Rogers: 26:33

Totally. You’re just going in to network. If there’s

Sam Bruno: 26:37

anyone who can do this, it’s the worm core. I know, yes.

Kim Rogers: 27:09

made but like at the same time when you meet them and a lot of people don’t know my past and they don’t know where I come from when it comes to like different levels of politics and like those type of things because I’ve always just done all of the medicine type of talk on my own but I’m at the point where I personally would love to go get an accurate mold test I personally would love to go get an accurate parasite test and I would like to have my number on the books and if it And let me explain that real quick. My number on the books means there’s 60 million Americans that tested positive through the CDC for parasites, and I’m not one of them. And it’s because my test had to go to Mexico, and it doesn’t count because it’s an independent lab.

Sam Bruno: 27:55

Oh, so they only count Western medicine in America’s parasite test. Which, by the way, so many people that actually do have parasites and worms get their stool tested. through Western Medicine Labs and it comes back negative.

Kim Rogers: 28:13

That’s why I’m not on that number.

Sam Bruno: 28:14

That number isn’t correct. It’s not accurate. It’s way more. It’s way, way, way

Kim Rogers: 28:19

more. But it really is important to know that when you walk into a doctor and they look at you like all my tests came back negative, everything came back negative, but I’m in pain and I’m like, something is going on here. So

Sam Bruno: 28:33

dismissive, right? They always do that. They gaslight, they dismiss, like just because you understand aren’t educated about it does not make it not real. You just don’t know. You just don’t know. It’s like they discount environmental toxins so much. It’s like they don’t pay attention. They don’t. Well, because they aren’t educated. That’s really why. They’re not educated on parasites, worms, and mold for some reason inside of you. It’s so strange to me. So yes, keep being the voice for this, Kim. So what did you do for the solution after you found out you had mold and yeast? Oh, yeah.

Kim Rogers: 29:06

Okay, so I got the ear camera. It’s like 45 bucks on Amazon. So I really recommend getting one of those. It was kind of cool. And then I looked to see what it was. And that’s how I was able to determine that it was yeast and mold in my ear. And I like did screenshots of it too, so that I could show Dr. Giles because I wanted to show her like I needed to treat my ear, but I also needed to show her. So I had to do a video. save it on my phone and then I was able so that I got Wally’s eardrops they’re the same people that make the some of the ear candles and it’s an ear oil so I was I know that ear oil I know that’s great but when I landed in Nashville my ear was really bad even when I was on Dr. Axe I was pretty sick when I was on Dr. Axe’s podcast I couldn’t hear but I had been doing the swimmer’s ear which the swimmer’s eardrops with Highland and it’s all it’s a homeopathic

Sam Bruno: 30:00

such a professional and such a champ you would never know so when you guys see the Dr. Axe podcast dropping in June appreciate it that much more because you’ll have the insight behind the curtain Kim was suffering during

Kim Rogers: 30:15

the podcast okay I was just like I gotta get through it man because like we were there for that and it was such an honor to meet him like he’s such a calm and like you walk in and you know what he’s doing he loves it and his spirit was just really kind and his team is really It was really great. So then I did, what else did I do? Okay. So I did the highland drops. And then after I got home, I did the camera and I really like it. It was, it really is super cheap and works great. And then I did the Wayland’s oil and I feel like the oil was best. I feel like the oil was best. Also done a little antibiotic, not any antibiotic in my ear. I’m taking it orally. And

Sam Bruno: 30:57

then replenishing your gut.

Kim Rogers: 30:59

Yeah. I had to look it all up because Because no one really knows exactly. So it’s like a saccharide and moss. And those are refrigerated pro and prebiotic only because it’s live right there. So in the day, I’m doing a pill with it. And then at night when I do my second pill, I’m doing this one drink. And I got them at Sprouts. And it’s an LGG probiotic. So it’s the bacteria that’s LGG.

Sam Bruno: 31:27

Is it in the little white bottle? Yeah, the little straw. I

Kim Rogers: 31:29

like those. So I feel. like the education of knowing how to keep your gut health and i feel like when people especially that have lyme and they get put on doxycycline they don’t really know that they have to take something simultaneously with the antibiotic and where people that have to take an antibiotic like that’s where western medicine really does a good job coming into play to help you band-aid it i was talking to jeremy about this last night i go you know the problem is back in the 90s when I first got into medicine that we were using it as a band-aid and then over the last 20 years we’ve been using it as like the main character and you can’t it was never designed to be the main character it was always designed to be the supplement it was always designed to be the supportive yeah

Sam Bruno: 32:24

supportive role yes the main character needs a sidekick

Kim Rogers: 32:28

yes

Sam Bruno: 32:29

Yeah, think about it. You’re absolutely right. There’s time and place when pharmaceuticals are necessary. I mean, in life-saving moments, when modern Western medicine is so necessary. Of course, it’s not discounting and saying, don’t use these. But wow, it was never meant to be the main character.

Kim Rogers: 32:50

And we villainized both sides of what we’re trying to do here. And I was like, okay, I get asked… Well, we get asked all the time too, why? And it’s always money. But let me tell you, if that was the case, I know what it looks like on the side of holistic medicine as well. I know what it looks like to cost for testing. Like there is, if it’s about the money, then they need to be educated because on both sides, there is money on both sides. So everybody says money. But like, I’ve been in this world as a classically trained medical personnel. And I can tell you that my whole life has not been revolved around money. It has been more revolved around how I can help people. And sometimes that gets lost in the translation, right? And so When I first learned about medicine, it really was supposed to be a supporting character. So that’s your responsibility to make you and your health the main character and how you’re gonna integrate all of these into your own life.

Sam Bruno: 33:56

We’re talking about modalities specifically because that’s what we’re focused on this month. All of our episodes, we have a podcast episode, we have a field trip episode where we actually go and do modalities and show you guys us doing them. We’re gonna show you everything from cold cryo cold plunge to going to a salt cave to use uh halo therapy and so much more IVs I mean we utilize IV therapy so often I want to get back to you at the very very beginning of this live I went on a tangent

Sam Bruno: 34:28

Oh, the tangent was beautiful and necessary, and I’m so glad you did because, whew, I mean, it’s inspiring and it lights me up too. So this is also how I know we are definitely aligned on our missions and on our purpose because I’m like ready to go. Like, let’s go. Let’s get the word out. At the beginning of this live, so many people were asking about digestion and enemas and cleansing with Parify and like, do you do it if you’re Oh my gosh. I’m so grateful that y’all ask about this because this is my area of expertise and this is my wheelhouse enemas and digestion and getting backed up and staying regular and all of these things. Like, okay, this is so, so, so important. Your digestive health is everything. You must be going to the bathroom. And before you cleanse, during a purified cleanse, after you cleanse, it doesn’t matter at what point, you should be going at least once a day. When you get your digestive health to a point where you know it’s healthy and working well, you will be releasing at least once a day. And ideally in the morning, at some point after you wake up, like you’re going to release everything from the day before. And if you eat another meal, going in again is totally fine. One to three times a day is an ideal healthy amount of times to go to the bathroom. There are at home, easy to use modalities that you can use to keep yourself regular. So My favorite one, even before coffee enema, is a good old-fashioned water enema. So simple. So easy. It works every single time. If you haven’t gone to the bathroom yet today and you do one, you will go right away. It will get out what’s blocked up. It’s gentle. It’s effective. I’ve been using them for over a decade. I’m so happy to get the word out and let you guys know. Go for it. Do it. Order yourself a silicone enema bag you can either get it through happy bum both kim and i have links in our bios for happy bum or you can get it on amazon you don’t want the little cvs or walgreens drugstore little enema bottle thing filled with already pre-made who knows what that’s not what we’re talking about here

Kim Rogers: 36:47

yeah

Sam Bruno: 36:48

you want to get yourself an enema bag it’s a decent size bag that holds a good amount of water with a hook and you can hang it up high it has a tube it has a clamp on the tube and it has an end tip okay literally i just use spring water from a glass bottle you could also use o on water like we were talking about earlier. What’s the machine called, Kim?

Kim Rogers: 37:10

Thursage bubbler.

Sam Bruno: 37:11

Parasauce bubbler if you want to do ozone. I don’t do those every time. It’s every now and then that I do one because I do notice afterward I get a little bit nauseous. And I think it’s because the ozone is really going in there and getting to work. But just speaking simple basics 101, just where to start. Like I would suggest if you are someone who has constipation, gets backed up easily, or you’re not going to the bathroom once a day right now, please hear this message and implement water enemas to your life. It will change your life. And you will wonder why you did not do this sooner. I’m talking this cost you probably the enema bag Probably what can like 20 something maybe 30 30 something dollars. I’ve had mine for two years I mean, wow, what an investment. It is a life changer because it’s such a hack. I always travel with it. Every time I travel anywhere, I bring it.

Kim Rogers: 38:04

Have you seen the new Happy Bum Beam one that’s glass?

Sam Bruno: 38:08

No, very excited about that. Cool.

Kim Rogers: 38:10

They just launched a new glass one.

Sam Bruno: 38:12

Okay, that’s nice. I’m going to check that out for sure. Okay, so coffee. Let’s move on to that next. I just wanted to emphasize the water because especially on social media, everyone’s so obsessed with coffee enemas. It’s like the enema everyone talks about and they’re totally bypassing like the simple beginner 101. You don’t always have to add coffee and you don’t always have to do the whole coffee process, which is different. You’re supposed to hold it for 12 to 15 minutes. You’re supposed to lay on a certain side of your body so that it is traveling to your liver and gallbladder. I wouldn’t even say start there. Start at water, work your way up to coffee. So that’s my two cents on water enemas. And while you’re cleansing, absolutely, don’t let being someone who gets constipated or is backed up prevent you from doing the Parify cleanse. Please, please, just utilize… Okay, so coffee. It’s more focused on the liver and gallbladder. That’s what the coffee is really doing. So the compounds in enema coffee, we’re not talking about going to the store and just getting any kind of coffee, not even just organic, regular coffee. you want enema coffee. So coffee enema, it’s a different process, but essentially you brew the coffee a certain way, you add it to the bag, you want to do two fills essentially, you like split it in half the amount of coffee that’s in there, you put half of it in, you lay on your side, you let it absorb for as long as you possibly can, 12 to 15 minutes is ideal because that’s how long it takes the compounds in the coffee to travel through blood vessels and reach your liver and gallbladder and stimulate them to help have them dump everything they’re holding into your colon and then you pass it out. So yes, it is super detoxifying. Of course it assists your liver and detoxing. And that’s like the point of coffee enemas. There’s, there’s also a lot of other benefits to it. Distilled water is good, only if it’s from a glass container, though. But that’s really why I prefer to use spring water, because it’s a balanced pH. Distilled water can be stripping of minerals, so that’s why spring to me is just kind of like… my favorite go-to. I’ve never had an issue with spring water using it in enemas. So yeah, that’s the two cents on water enemas, coffee enemas, and then a modality, of course, that if you can go to a clinic and get a colonic also during cleansing, before cleansing, after cleansing, like really these type of modalities for your digestive system should be a regular part of your life, no matter if you’re cleansing or not, because healthy digestion is everything. And getting the waste out is everything, especially while you’re cleansing. So it’s not optional. We even say that in the modality episode, Kim. You’re like, it should be mandatory, really, while you’re cleansing on the purified cleanse. You need to be doing water enemas. Or coffee enema if you’ve graduated to it and feel comfortable doing that. And colonic, yes. We’re talking about water therapy. That’s what we’re talking about. Humans have been doing this forever. It’s very normal. It’s very natural. It’s very healthy. Again, this is not

Kim Rogers: 41:31

medical. That’s where bidets come from. bidets. Are they really?

Sam Bruno: 41:35

I thought they were just to clean you. I didn’t know that it was.

Kim Rogers: 41:38

No, it shoots up. You can have a bidet that shoots up to get that outside to help you get going. It’s stimulating. It’s stimulating. But that’s what the original bidet is for. And the way that you can angle the actual bidet nozzle can go in and shoot it up your bum. Yeah, even Instagram agrees.

Sam Bruno: 41:59

But let’s make sure that if that’s the case, it ain’t just normal city water to come and going up there because you could be

Kim Rogers: 42:06

putting worm water up your butt. I mean, that’s really what the issue is with the water in our

Sam Bruno: 42:11

country. What should you look for from a colonic technician or company? I would say just look at what’s in your area and then read Yelp reviews.

Kim Rogers: 42:18

Make sure they’re using filtered water. And

Sam Bruno: 42:20

make sure they’re using filtered water smart, not city water. That’s smart.

Kim Rogers: 42:24

That should be all. I just found out that my spa doesn’t use filtered water when they do my facials. So, you know, you should always ask about that. and especially if you’re shooting water up your butt

Sam Bruno: 42:38

yeah especially oh my god you’re adding what you’re trying to get out directly to the location that it wants to go to to thrive and live unreal so yeah so someone just asked about the terrify cleanse so listen please don’t let being backed up or constipated Prevent you from starting. I’m giving you guys a code right now. It’s our podcast code. If you use this, you’ll get 10% off of all products, all cleanses. at rogershood.com so just use what’s eating you and we don’t spell it with y-o-u it’s just what’s eating in the letter u you’ll get 10 off of everything but go ahead please if you haven’t already purified cleanse get the cleanse immediately don’t wait don’t be scared don’t let anything prevent or stop you someone was asking about their lymphatic system like oh what if you know if your lymph is like slower should i wait to cleanse it’s like do everything you can to clear out and to get all of your Thank you so much. haven’t yet, please go get the Parify Cleanse. It changed my life. I am a lifelong Parify Cleanser. At this point, I’ve removed hundreds of visible worms from my body using it, including over a hundred that have left my nose, including a foot-long ropeworm, liver flukes, like hundreds of liver flukes. I’ve seen so many things leave my body. It’s unbelievable. Tons of stones, tons of mucus so many things that honestly at this point i don’t even know how to identify because they’re just so weird that i’m like what even is this so yeah it works and um i saw someone also in the comments be like do you have to take off work to do the cleanse no no uh that’s what’s so beautiful about the parify cleanse all completely natural for real for real organic herbal kim is very purposeful about the ingredients that go into every single one of her brilliant products that she creates and invent. They’re all effective. They’re all good for you. They’re all natural and organic. They’re third-party tested. They are safe to take. We use this stuff and we feel better for it. And there are thousands of other people who agree. So if you have done the Parify Cleanse already, amazing. Please let us know your results. Let us know what you experienced, how you felt, how you feel now, what you saw leave your body. Not everyone sees physical worms leave their body and that’s normal too. Most of what comes out is actually microscopic. So, oh, we’re so grateful to be helping. This is the whole point, providing the information, making it very normalized, like we’re normalizing it, letting you know it’s super normal, it’s super natural. And at this point in life, guys, being a modern day human, the amount of environmental toxins we come into contact with every single day of our life, if we’re not cleansing, we’re Kim uses this analogy all the time, but if you think about your body and your entire system as a bucket, you are loading it up so full, full of all of these harmful organisms and environmental toxins. If you don’t do something to empty out that bucket and lighten your load, this is what illness and dis-ease comes from. That’s why we’re wearing all that. We have to be cleansing. We have to be cleansing. And ideally, like three to four times a year, the parasite cleansing alone, because we’re eating food every day of our lives. Doesn’t matter how natural and organic. Funny enough, the irony is organic vegetables and fruits don’t have pesticides on them.

Kim Rogers: 46:45

Right. But organic and natural does have some heavy metals, which is normal. Like there’s a little bit of them with inside of even like carrots because it’s dirt. But it’s so you can process things. And I think we have vilified so many things because, oh, well, any extreme of anything is going to be a bad thing. Of course. Yeah. But you just have to be conscientious, you know.

Sam Bruno: 47:12

Yeah. Someone just commented on your packaging. They love it. They think it’s great. Oh, thanks.

Kim Rogers: 47:17

Yeah. We tried to keep it. calm and good and just yeah because this is overwhelming right you’re getting introduced into holistic herbs and holistic lifestyle and like you don’t want to have a whole bunch of stuff we’re actually working on even our instructions simplifying our instructions and the instructional card because you can over you can over complicate things and i feel like over the last four years I’ve been doing this, I just really want people to get the herbs in their body. Like that’s the whole purpose of this. And so we’re really trying to keep that as easy and breezy as possible.

Sam Bruno: 47:56

Yeah. Really cleansing at this point in life, guys, it’s, It is mandatory. We have to be. But it’s wild that it is a new concept to so many people. And that’s really just people living in America because America didn’t get the memo. And we are one of the sickest countries on the planet, if not the sickest. Would you say we’re the sickest, Kim?

Kim Rogers: 48:17

I mean, we’re pretty much up there. Yeah. And medicine is like the number three way people die in our country is through medicine. So, I mean, that’s pretty up there, you know?

Sam Bruno: 48:28

Yeah. We must be cleansing. We must be using these modalities man. That’s why we’re talking about this So again, like thank you everyone for joining us on this live today Really? We just came on to talk about these modalities To let you know what we use in our lives that help us to stay healthy and feeling good and energized even through major Serious things like all of Kim’s chronic illnesses and her flares She still is not she’s never just laid up in bed not working not traveling not moving around. She uses these modalities in her everyday life to keep on going. So if you are chronically ill or if your bucket is just overflowing, if you’re worn down, if you’re lethargic, if you have headaches, if you have sugar cravings at night, if you can’t sleep, if you have insomnia, if you have acne, if you have problems with hormonal or reproductive issues, digestive issues, any of these things, if you’re getting sick all the time like I was before I started Paraphyte Cleansing, any of these things can be relieved, can be alleviated like really cleansing is such a huge huge part it’s a staple really at this point and we want to help it become a staple in your guys’s lives too and then also using these modalities that we have access to it’s a beautiful time to be alive yes humans are facing a crisis in health where we’re sicker than we’ve ever been but simultaneously there’s also this beautiful global medical awakening happening we’re coming live and direct literally reporting to y’all from the front lines being like, hey… Don’t listen to what you’ve been taught your whole life. Hey, the water here in America is not as clean as we’ve been told. Hey, Western medicine doctors don’t have all the answers and actually don’t know a lot of this stuff and are gaslighting you and are making you feel crazy and are discounting these things and overlooking them and not testing correctly. Hey, there is remedy. There are solutions. And nature can absolutely help you heal. And so we’re here to deliver that message and let you all know how we do it in our lives and what works for us. so that’s the whole point of sharing this message about modalities check out our podcast what’s eating you it is on every platform that you can stream podcasts from YouTube to Spotify to Apple podcast and all of the rest please tap in we are always offering you information tangible information for you to apply in your everyday life that will help you feel your best

Kim Rogers: 50:53

well thank you guys for being here with us

Sam Bruno: 50:55

thank you until next time thank you you too Kim everyone be well stay tapped in we got y’all we’re all in this together