EP 4: Fuel Or Poison? The Truth About Food

Sam: 0:00

Ooh, we’re talking. Talking about what’s eating you. Talking about what’s eating you, proudly brought to you by Rogers Hood Apothecary. Welcome to what’s Eating you with Sam and Kim, where we’re serving you all of the health and wellness information and healing knowledge that you’re hungry for, kim. What are we talking about today? Mold, this is actually a topic I feel like a lot of people may not know to the depth, that you experienced this in your life and that it actually affected you in a really harmful way.

Kim: 0:36

Yeah, Just a few years ago, while we were dealing with the parasites and building the company, this was something that just fell on us and we had no idea.

Sam: 0:53

Man, let’s talk about how you navigated it. Were you aware of mold prior to getting infected with mold, or was it something that after you experienced it in your own body, in your own health and life? That’s when you learned about it.

Kim: 0:59

Yep, that’s when I learned really heavily about it. I mean, obviously we always knew environmental toxins could be an issue, but honestly it wasn’t something that Western medicine took seriously. So I’m classically trained in Western medicine. It just wasn’t something that we really dove into. Root cause wasn’t a thing. So once I started removing the parasites, I started realizing something else was wrong with me, and so I started diving into it deeper.

Sam: 1:28

It’s interesting that you said it in that order that you started removing the parasites and then noticed there was something else wrong. And I know, when you’re talking about paraffy cleansing and parasite cleansing to your community and you’re online spreading the information about parasite cleansing, you always recommend that people parasite cleanse before mold cleansing. Why is that?

Kim: 1:50

Because parasites hold spores and they can hold heavy metals, spores, viruses, bacteria, and when they release those spores because you’re removing them, the spores can colonize inside of your body, and especially if you’re living in mold which Jeremy and I were living in mold. So the biggest takeaway from that when I was living in it is that the wormwood actually was suppressing the thought that I was living in mold, because wormwood suppresses spores. So you’re actually boosting your immune system while you’re removing the spores and then when you realize you’re in the mold, that’s when then you can take action and you actually do feel a little bit better when you start to parasite cleanse first.

Sam: 2:32

Wow, I have parify cleansed a few times now. And I then asked you like, oh, now I can get going on moldies, right, and I can do the moldies cleanse. And you’re like, yeah, go for it. And day one of taking the tincture, my body was like no way, we’re not doing this right now. This is way too intense. And why can the experience feel like that for people Like I’m not someone who even knows for sure, I have mold Because of you and your information, which we’re going to share today, I’m going to get tested for it in my home and my body. So why does it feel so intense for people when they get started?

Kim: 3:10

Well, mold is brainwashing, parasites control and mold brainwashes and then it gets into your joints, it gets into your lymphatic system, so it’s really difficult to rinse it out. Essentially is kind of how you have to think about it Cleaning it out and it colonates in your body, just like it colonates on a wall. So visually, while you’re thinking of it, it actually is literally growing still inside of you.

Sam: 3:38

It’s alive. It’s alive.

Kim: 3:40

It’s its own frequency and you can actually feel it when you start to remove the mold out of your body.

Sam: 3:44

You can feel your frequency rising. You can feel your frequency rising.

Kim: 3:46

You can feel your frequency rising. You can feel the low frequency of the mold. In fact, I swear Jeremy is a mold detective now. Everywhere we go he actually has more responses to mold than I do where it used to be.

Sam: 4:00

vice versa, he can get in it and know right away that there’s mold in this room. You said something really profound that I don’t want to just cruise past. I want to back up and really put emphasis on it because I feel like this is very profound and important. Parasites control you, yes, mold brainwashes you, right. So it sounds to me like parasites is much more of an opportunist organism that uses you as a host and kind of maneuvers you with these levers to get you to eat the things they eat and live the way that will benefit them in their survival. But as far as mold goes, what that sounds like to me is that it’s way more mental. It affects you mentally, right? So let’s dive into that.

Kim: 4:48

Well, that’s why you struggled with the Moldy’s Cleanse. Moldy’s is Rogers Hood Mold Cleanse. From my own experience, when I was demolding, there wasn’t anything out there, and so when people like yourself start to cleanse, it is boosting your mitochondria. However, it’s also controlling the way you’re thinking and your emotions. It’s really very mental.

Sam: 5:12

So let’s talk, then, about a few signs or symptoms that people may experience if they have mold.

Kim: 5:18

Because this is such an important topic, I’m going to read off my phone a little bit.

Sam: 5:21

Yeah, notes. I mean, we don’t want to miss anything and we did prepare very thoroughly because it is so important to give you guys all of the information. So please use your notes.

Kim: 5:31

So some of your symptoms of active mold in your body can be weight gain. I could not, for the life of me, lose weight, no matter what I was doing, and it’s because mold slows down your metabolism and you can have metabolic disorder, which is what I’ve ended up having. I have metabolic disorder because my metabolism slowed so much that my body doesn’t process the sugars, it doesn’t process the nutrients correctly. So I’m always working on that, but that’s a huge indication If, all of a sudden, you were like fit and skinny and you get in living in mold or you’re working in mold and you’re like gosh, I can’t get these five pounds off for some reason you said you guys would not eat for days and still gain weight.

Sam: 6:12

Yeah so that’s a huge sign. Right there, it’s the opposite of having a fast metabolism. Right, it’s the slowest metabolism.

Kim: 6:19

You can have Okay have, and not only would we not eat for days, we wouldn’t feel hungry, because that is part of the effect of the mold Is it slows your metabolism. You’re never hungry. In fact, when I realized in October of 22 that we were being poisoned by aspergillus niger and clado sprudium Aspergillus niger and Clado sprudium I got hangry for the first time. I didn’t even know what hangry was. I have quite a bit of mold now, knowing roots from my mom has mold and it got passed down to me. But I started to cleanse and I realized oh my gosh, this is why people are hangry. I’d never been hangry before. That’s how much it slows your metabolism down, almost to a halt where you don’t feel it.

Sam: 7:08

Okay, we’re definitely going to keep diving into symptoms, but you said something I don’t want to just pass by. You inherited mold. It can be passed down genetically. Yes, it can be passed down in the womb.

Kim: 7:21

Okay, also through the drainage pathway, because they’re alive, they’re spores and they can come out of breasts, so it can be passed.

Sam: 7:29

So breastfeeding, yep, okay yeah.

Kim: 7:32

So it can be passed that way. Okay, and if you’re living in mold and you’re having children in mold, they’re going to have the same mold too.

Sam: 7:39

The environment, yeah, yeah.

Kim: 7:40

So all of these things that we talk about are environmental toxins.

Sam: 7:44

You can pick them up, nature and nurture. You can get them both ways.

Kim: 7:54

And we all have been exposed to mold. But if your body isn’t processing the right way and you have parasites, like I have Lyme, the mold’s going to stay in you way better than if you’re constantly in movement too.

Sam: 8:03

Yeah, I heard a long time ago and it always stuck with me, that disease can’t hit a moving target. Right, so it’s really good. So sedentary lifestyle is that like playground for mold? Yep, it is.

Kim: 8:19

And they’re like needles. So even when you start to become movement and active, it’s painful because the spores are like digging into your joints. I would go for trigger point injections, which is where they go in, and they do actual points, trigger it in with a steroid, and it would never work. And it’s because one I was living in mold and because I hadn’t really started cleansing my body, I didn’t know. So we would do the injections in my hip and I would be like, why am I still in so much pain? It would maybe last a couple of days and then I would go back to being in pain.

Sam: 8:57

Once you cleansed mold out of your system, did that pain? It went away, it subsided.

Kim: 9:03

Okay and I only did a few months, so it wasn’t like you can mold cleanse, especially with moldies. You can cleanse monthly if you want, with a few breaks in between, because the type of herbs that we used in that kit is more mitochondria boosting, but there’s a couple herbs that it goes in and it actually like wipes out the spores while you’re cleansing.

Sam: 9:27

Wow.

Kim: 9:28

Yeah, and keeps them from growing more and becoming more active.

Sam: 9:31

Amazing, that’s really impressive. It really is the power of plants, man, the power of plants. Let’s get back to symptoms.

Kim: 9:37

Okay, so for me, obviously, because I’m on camera a lot my eyes were swelling shut. I could not figure out for the life of me what was wrong, and it started to really scare me because my hair was falling out at a rapid rate. There were two things in life that I’ve always said don’t mess with my hair and don’t mess with my teeth.

Sam: 9:57

Yeah Well, you have great hair and great teeth. Thanks, man. So do you Thank?

Kim: 10:00

you. So when it ended up happening and I was losing handfuls, obviously I went to the extreme. I’m like I’m parasite, cleansed my gosh. What could be happening to me next? Like what have I done? We were in such a high stress situation with the build and building Rogers Hood, which was stressful. Going viral is stressful. I’m grateful for it, but it is very stressful.

Sam: 10:27

Stress isn’t just negative. There’s good stress that affects your system the same way.

Kim: 10:32

So I thought, well, maybe that’s what it is. And then I reached out to Dr Giles, who’s my personal doctor, and I told her my brain fog. So brain fog was so bad that I couldn’t finish sentences sometimes. And they do say that mold poisoning is Alzheimer’s three. So the forgetfulness, the rage, I don’t. My husband is the calmest, kindest person I know. He truly is. Jer really is. Yes, yeah, he is. The depression that comes with it, the hopelessness, because once I found out we had mold, it was like, oh God, we’re homeless. Now we’re already living in a travel trailer, building our log home that we can see we’re building, and we had nowhere to go and we didn’t know what our next options were.

Sam: 11:42

Right, oh, let’s make that point a little more clear. You were living in a travel trailer, building your log home on your land. And the trailer got infested with mold. Yeah, okay, yeah.

Kim: 11:54

So, basically, we were living in our travel trailer, we were building our dream, our log home. We had gone out to our property to basically say goodbye to me and we worked on self-healing me and in the process, that’s where our water was contaminated. And now we’re finding out that our travel trailer is full of aspergillus niger, which is black mold toxic black mold and we’re living in it and we’re like barely making it.

Kim: 12:25

We were, we were so poor and we were building this business because I had gone viral over worms and you know we get it when one thing hits you, it just continues.

Sam: 12:38

You went viral before finding out you had mold.

Kim: 12:40

Yeah, I was literally in the thick of being viral as well as building Rogers Hood, so we went viral in July of 21 21 and this was in August of 22. So we were a year in we were a year in and we could see our log home, Right? I mean, you looked down our travel trailer that was full of mold and you’re like, oh well, what do we do?

Sam: 13:02

How did you find out? The trailer was full of mold.

Kim: 13:05

So the brain fog, the losing of my hair, and then my eyes swelled shut.

Sam: 13:11

So you got these symptoms, and then what did you do to find out you had it?

Kim: 13:14

I went to Dr Giles and I asked her to run as many tests as she possibly could on my blood. I said I need to know what’s wrong with me. This is more than just parasites. I don’t know what’s wrong with me. This is more than just parasites. I don’t know what’s going on and I need to know if I have cancer. I need to know what my next steps are, because this is really bad, and I’m talking not a little hair. I had the most beautiful, thickest, longest hair and it went to like nothing.

Sam: 13:44

So it’s back, it is.

Kim: 13:48

Which is amazing. Yeah, I worked really hard on it?

Sam: 13:49

Yeah, I mean I can tell. So okay, Say that people out there want to get tested. How do they go about doing that? What’s the best way to get tested? Your body for mold?

Kim: 13:59

The best way is to go and get a blood test or a urine test. Now I haven’t done a urine test, but I’ve heard from a lot of my root cause doctors that the urine test is really great and because urine is a runoff of blood, so it’s probably the easiest way. But normally you need to see a practitioner and you can go into my link tree because I provide doctors that you can go to that specifically specialize in this.

Sam: 14:24

I love you for that. That’s really great.

Sam: 14:27

That’s an incredible resource, so we’ll also put a link in the description below. You can get free resources on how to get tested for mold and that’s like super important. Honestly, the symptoms you’ve just already listed. I’ve never had hair loss but, like everything else you listed, I experienced little spouts of, so I also am going to be getting tested. But really, because I know the owner of Rogers Hood and the creator of Moldy’s, I’m going to go ahead and just get started and, even if the beginning’s a little more rough, I’m going to stick with it and I’m going to complete a Moldy’s cleanse because I have a feeling. I mean, I’ve never cleansed of mold before and I’ve been on the earth for 35 years, so I’m pretty sure I’ve come into contact with it.

Kim: 15:14

Would you say everybody has a little mold in them. I do. I think everyone has a little bit of mold in them when they have a mental health disorder, anxiety, rage, because it colonizes and you don’t even really know it. And our kit in general just helps boost your mitochondria. I just named it Moldy’s because there’s nothing out there. But it has immune, which has mullein, which helps break down mucus, and it has recover, which is oyster, shiitake, milk, thistle and pumpkin seed, and so those combinations help with your hair, skin, nails and of course we all want to have that glow. And pumpkin seed also is an anti-parasitic. So it’s doing dual purposes when you’re taking the Moldy’s kit.

Sam: 15:59

What other herbs are in the Moldy’s tincture? Safflower, fennel, flaxseed.

Kim: 16:07

Fennel is the one that goes in and really is the mold killer. It goes in and it like sweeps it out like a broom. Actually, I’m going to say it sweeps it out like a vacuum, because a broom will just brush it out, but like this, goes in and it’s like out. So you’re loosening up the mold and then you’ve got to find a way to break it out so it doesn’t recolonize throughout your body, and so when you have things like flaxseed it can also live heavily in cholesterol. We had high cholesterol and we don’t eat the way that it looks on our blood work and they give you a prescription to lower your cholesterol while you’re doing a mold cleanse to break it up because it lives in it.

Sam: 16:50

Oh, wow.

Kim: 16:51

So when I yeah, that’s why I picked the herbs, I picked like flaxseed.

Sam: 16:55

Break that down, because I’ve actually had people DM me and be like oh, I want to do the moldy’s kit, but it has sunflower lecithin in it. Why does it even have that? It sounds like it’s like a preservative that’s unnecessary and artificial, but I know you would never put anything in there that’s not purposeful, so why sunflower less than?

Kim: 17:13

It helps break it down. It goes into that fat where it’s being stored. If you think of the way that cholesterol is is. It goes in there and helps kind of thin it out and break it down.

Sam: 17:25

Cool. So then it’s easier to move and clean the mold out, because if you’re breaking apart its home right, what it’s like burrowed into, yeah, you’re making it homeless. Got it, got it. Well, that’s good. Glutathione oh yeah, is that a? So that’s a supplement.

Kim: 17:41

Yes.

Sam: 17:42

That is helpful with mold removal or what is that good for?

Kim: 17:45

It boosts your ATP and you love it.

Sam: 17:49

I love Gluta, I am a Gluta, I’m a Gluta girly all day long. I always get it in my vitamin drips at a high dose. Shout out to Dr Giles once again, because she put together a custom cocktail for me. Really, for skin health, and glutathione is like king.

Kim: 18:09

It’s so good. It’s so good. Well, how do you feel after you take it?

Sam: 18:13

Really good, Really really good. And my skin thrives for a long time after. I feel good, energized, but also calm.

Kim: 18:20

So yeah, because it’s calming your nervous system, because it’s kind of calming any sort of toxins that we have going on in our body. It’s pulling them out. Vitamin D3 and K2 is a helpful one.

Sam: 18:33

Great for the immune system. We all know that.

Kim: 18:35

Basically, what you’re doing when you’re doing these cleanses is you’re boosting your immune system. That’s the whole purpose of it is to fight against the environmental toxins that have infiltrated your body, which is really where we’re at in life. We’re in this medical awakening where we’re understanding that environmental toxins are really the bigger issue for autoimmune disease, and the cool thing for me to see that is that you can watch my journey over the last three and a half years on my account, literally, watch your transformation, literally, literally. I’ve recorded myself every day.

Sam: 19:11

You’ve been actively removing environmental toxins from your environment, your space and your body. Yes, and in doing so, you’re healing autoimmune disease.

Kim: 19:25

So you’re healing autoimmune disease. Yes, I was placated with at least 15. I mean every single one that’s been thrown at any of you. It was thrown at me. And so the labels, I’m like, okay, well, I’m going to take a couple, I’m going to find out what the root cause of those couple labels are and then I’m going to get rid of the labels.

Sam: 19:47

So what are environmental?

Kim: 19:48

toxins, parasites, mold, lime, anything that is from the environment, which is pretty much heavy metals.

Sam: 19:56

Pathogens, chemicals, toxins, candida, candida Viruses.

Kim: 20:00

Viruses, bacteria strep, which is what I’m dealing with right now, strep in my brain, because they come from our environment and then they affect our bodies. Our bodies are doing what they’re supposed to be doing by putting a barrier, but then it starts to attack itself because it doesn’t know the difference. It’s like, oh my gosh, what is infiltrating into my body, that I need to stop it, and so it starts attacking itself because it thinks that’s the problem.

Sam: 20:28

The body itself is never the problem. It’s not made incorrectly or there’s not some kind of flaw. That happens where the body is just attacking itself for no reason. And that’s the narrative that a lot of people who have an autoimmune disease have, Because I’ve had a friend who will word it like that and you’ll talk to her to be like there has to be a root, there has to be something causing it, and she’s like no, it’s just the way my body is. But, you’re saying that’s not the case.

Kim: 20:58

That’s what I’m saying.

Sam: 20:59

That’s big.

Kim: 21:00

For myself and for everyone I’ve worked with everyone I’ve dealt with, which, and for everyone I’ve worked with everyone I’ve dealt with which. We’re almost in the millions now. I mean we’re in the hundreds of thousands. We have a million followers, over a million followers for Rogers Hood and Mrs Rogers Hood, and so it’s a constant. I’m watching the information roll into me and roll into our accounts and I’m constantly evaluating what everybody’s saying, so I’m I feel confident to say that environmental toxins are our issue.

Sam: 21:34

It’s the root cause.

Kim: 21:35

It’s the root cause.

Sam: 21:36

So you’re getting feedback from people with autoimmune diseases that, after cleansing and removing environmental toxins from their bodies, are reporting back to you directly. Yes, that their autoimmune Is gone directly. That their autoimmune is gone.

Kim: 21:54

Gone, not even improved. Gone, Improved, gone, gone. All of the above. Yeah, for anybody that gets symptom free, it’s gone to them. That’s incredible. Yeah, the pain is gone, the feelings are gone, and then you just keep digging Like, if something else comes up, okay, well, then you work on that one next.

Sam: 22:08

Yeah, this is a wellness awakening. It is.

Kim: 22:12

We are in a medical awakening. People are realizing that it’s more than just a Band-Aid situation with big pharma. But you have to get in and you have to know how to fix your own body. That no one’s going to do it for you. And that’s really what my main goal was when I started going viral and realizing everything was that you have to be your own patient advocate. No one’s going to do it for you.

Sam: 22:38

Yeah, I mean, that’s really the purpose of this podcast.

Kim: 22:41

It is.

Sam: 22:42

I mean, we both are super aligned with that in our own lives, but also helping other people realize the same, and we both have similar stories in where we reached a point where we were like okay, no more, I’m taking my health and my life into my own hands and I’m going to heal myself.

Sam: 23:02

We’re super aligned in that, and so it’s a huge reason for what’s Eating you to help spread the word and empower people with information about this, about how you do have more power than you realize if you’re only depending on Western medicine and big pharma.

Kim: 23:17

And that’s how we got brought together, it’s true, which is great.

Sam: 23:20

It’s true, we got brought together from me needing to parasite cleanse after 12 years of already being on a health and wellness journey, of taking my power into my own hands, and anyone who knows me when you ask them, I’ve been the cleanest eater and the most you know and like all these things, you do everything Right, but I also, even after over a decade of doing that, I still was overloaded with environmental toxins, and so it was causing ailments and symptoms.

Sam: 23:52

And my partner would be like you’re missing a piece, because how are you 10 years deep and you’re still experiencing this, that and this and that Something’s missing. And so cleansing out the environmental toxins and I started with parasites and worms that was the first step candida and heavy metals I mean that was step one or step two for me, after already being really dedicated to healing myself, and everything changed after that. Even the other day, I was talking about how I can digest foods now. I couldn’t digest before without digestive issues prior to removing these environmental toxins out of my body worms and parasites and now I can just fine without enzymes or anything. And so it’s like you really improve your overall health and your entire life by removing environmental toxins. And I like to keep saying that word because I want to like press the issue and for people to realize this as a new concept, like it’s like wow, this feels really huge for you to spread that.

Kim: 24:55

It’s huge, and I feel like the blame game on yourself is over too, when I realized the weight wasn’t coming off not because I wasn’t doing all those things, it really was because my body stopped metabolizing things and started to hang on to the cortisol.

Kim: 25:18

And I got addicted to it because that was the only way I could keep running, in order for me to keep doing everyday activities. And the moment I learned that was night and day for me and you know I’d done all the parasite stuff and again I was like what’s going on with me? What’s eating me?

Sam: 25:37

Yeah, literally what’s eating me. I love, though, that, like organically, the way your journey unfolded you started with parasite cleansing and then did mold cleansing, so it’s like pretty amazing that that’s the way that it happened, because that’s the order in which you suggest everybody does it. So what happened after you found out? You got results back from your blood test and you found out you had mold. Also, though simultaneously I want to sidebar how did you find out that there was mold in the trailer? Did you actually get your trailer tested? I want to sidebar. How did you?

Kim: 26:06

find out that there was mold in the trailer.

Sam: 26:07

Did you actually get your trailer tested? No, but you can.

Kim: 26:09

We’ll talk about that too, okay, so after I realized and got the blood work back that night, I started looking around and I had a few things, but again, I wasn’t really medically awakened at that point and I also wasn’t super aware of how environmental toxins affected you. We were living in the travel trailer. We had a bed that I actually went on, bought it on Amazon and I saw that there was some reviews and there was actually a lawsuit against this company and it was for black mold in the actual mattress. Well, when you’re sleeping, you’re sweating, so just that alone is going into the mattress. So we flipped the mattress, we looked at it and it was just covered in black mold.

Kim: 26:55

Oh God. And so Jeremy and I thought okay, well, that’s it. And then Thinking, it was just the bed, yes, thinking, okay, well, that’s the answer, it’s just the bed. Well then I realized that I had flooded the bathroom that same month in the travel trailer.

Kim: 27:12

So right, water on the ground, and it was underneath and it was underneath the tile so we didn’t even see it and to this day we never ripped that floor up, so we don’t know. But then, after I got my blood tested and it came back with 8.5 out of 10 for aspergillus niger poisoning. That’s how bad it was. People that are in that level of poisoning really end up sometimes being hospitalized, but I was a fighter, because I’m in the thick of it with the parasites. I woke up the next morning after I got my blood work and I said to Jeremy I’m going to pull this stuff away from the wall. I’m going to look at the wall and he was like there’s nothing going on. We’ve already cleaned everything and so we thought we had contained it. I pulled all the furniture away from the wall and there was just black mold. Even showing my husband, he had a mold hold and it’s a thing.

Sam: 28:11

So what’s a mold hold?

Kim: 28:12

A mold hold is where you don’t think it’s as bad as it really is. And he did not want to leave and I said we’re leaving.

Sam: 28:21

That’s the mold brainwashing him.

Kim: 28:22

Yes, because he thinks he’s fine. Well, during the summer we had shut everything down and turned the HVAC system on. And HVAC is notorious. Hvac is heating and air. Notorious AC we had turned the AC on. Notorious when you shut it all down. When you shut your windows down, you close them all up, the HVAC will shoot spores in your. So he just thought, oh well, we’ll just open up windows and stuff. I’m like no babe. Literally it’s growing on the walls. Something is wrong here and June is when it started with my eyes and it’s because we shut the windows. The spores got to multiply. Our HVAC unit on our trailer had mold in it as well. I’m showing him these things during the summer. I’m saying I think it’s mold, but the mold hold. The brainwashing from the mold was telling him different Because it’s a frequency, it’s alive. It’s alive in your body.

Sam: 29:20

And, basically, if you’re in its way, you’re getting it. It’s going to grow in you and on you. Right, you’re in its pathway. It’s going to use you as well to grow on and grow in.

Kim: 29:31

Why not? It’s your part of earth and the environment and you’re an easy target because, again, it’s going to brainwash you thinking that all is well and it’s not. And I finally had to. So I left the trailer. And I was standing outside of the trailer I said I’m leaving and I need you to come with me, but I’m not going to let this thing kill me. I’m not letting this trailer kill me. And that’s what’s happening.

Sam: 29:56

I just got goosebumps head to toe. That’s wild.

Kim: 30:00

And I said we have to leave. Now, jeremy, like he goes, what are we going to do? And remember the year before, not even a full year. We had worms in our water in December of 21. And now we have mold in our trailer and this is August of 22. So we’re like Jesus, we’re not getting a break here. So that’s what he was thinking and I said I don’t care if it burns to the ground, we’re going to die in this trailer with the blood work I found and the mold that we’re seeing. You’ve got a mold hole, jeremy. We have to leave, let’s go.

Sam: 30:38

Wow, that is absolutely wild. It was so. There’s like a couple other symptoms that I know people can experience that mold causes. So what are a few more?

Kim: 30:50

Peeing all night long.

Sam: 30:51

Waking up to pee frequently Waking up to pee all night long.

Kim: 30:55

Okay, because the spores are trying to get out of your body and when you’re sleeping, you’re laying there, so your body’s defense is to push them out by peeing all night long. Okay, and we thought, oh, it’s because we’re getting old. Yeah, no, it’s because we literally were living in the mold and our bodies were doing what they wanted, what it was supposed to, which was pushing the spores out with the only way it knew how peeing.

Sam: 31:19

When you start mold cleansing, do you pee in the night less? Yes, yes.

Kim: 31:24

We literally were peeing four to five times a night and then, when we started mold cleansing, we got out of the mold. We did mold avoidance. Jeremy and I did it for 30 days. Once I got him that day on board to leave, we went to a hotel and we lived in a hotel for 30 days which was clean, no mold. It’s called mold avoidance. Some people actually don’t have to cleanse. They can go do mold avoidance for a month and then come back or a few weeks and go back and live in the mold.

Sam: 32:01

That tells me that the body will, on its own, naturally get rid of the mold. Because, like you said, the spores are trying to leave your body. So wow, so some people. So is it depending on the severity?

Kim: 32:10

Yeah, the severity and other autoimmune environmental toxin issues, especially if you have Lyme, because usually a co-infection is mold.

Sam: 32:21

If you have a lot of parasites and worms, because they hold onto them, they build nests with them and they’re like they hang out with them. It’s their hood man, so if you get them out, you’re getting out some of the mold as well. But also when you’re parasite and worm cleansing, don’t they release it as they leave. Yeah, but when you have wormwood it can help suppress it, so your body can help actually push it out. And then, of course, cinnabon, our favorite binder. Hey, cinnabon, yes.

Sam: 32:47

Because, then of course you’re binding up what you’re removing and getting it out of the body, so really you can do mold avoidance.

Kim: 32:53

but mold avoidance and mold cleansing is like the key and adding in the modalities the modalities that we talk about here on what’s eating you because that’s how I got so heavily into modalities which is like red light, methylene blue, which is huge for people that have mold because it really gets in there right away and pushes your mitochondria, pushing out the spores. And then you combined it about you take methylene blue and then about 20 minutes later you bring in the red light to mimic the sun and it actually activates the methylene blue even more and so it’s getting in there and really pushing out the spores. That’s what helped Jeremy the most. It’s a dye therapy and it’s amazing I did not respond as well to the dye therapy as he did, but I responded so good with red light and all of the herbs that I put in moldies. That’s why moldies was created. There just was nothing out there and it was so confusing. And when you’re in the thick of mold cleansing because you’ve got mold, you don’t want to take time to try and figure out.

Kim: 34:00

I take this pill, I take this pill. Oh, I got to do this.

Sam: 34:04

You don’t have time or the brain I was going to say. It seems like it’s almost impossible mentally for someone to even have the bandwidth or capacity or energy, mental energy, to even figure this out.

Sam: 34:17

So the fact you went through it, simultaneously creating something for others to do with instructions and guidance, I mean I think it’s so beautiful what you and Rogers Hood are doing for people, because it’s like you’ve taken out all the guesswork, you’ve taken out all of the not knowing and how do I do this and all of that, and just literally give it to people in a kit with instructions and it’s helping completely transform people’s health.

Kim: 34:43

Yes.

Sam: 34:44

So did you ever get tested after you-?

Kim: 34:46

When I did mold avoidance Mold avoidance and mold cleansing.

Sam: 34:49

Did you test again to see if the levels were lower, because you were eight and a half out of 10.

Kim: 34:54

Yes.

Sam: 34:55

Were they lower after? Yes?

Kim: 34:56

My levels have been cut in half and I based more of it on my symptoms because I knew what the height of my symptoms were, versus just a number on my blood test. But yes, and then I realized like how important that blood test was. But it wasn’t everything. So I’m around. If you were to do it again, I would probably be around a three, but I do have 11 active molds in my body. So it’s not just Aspergillus Niger. There’s multiple levels of mold that you can have in your body. The two that really were tough for me and Jeremy is Aspergillus Niger, which is black mold, and clado. Clado is a green mold and that’s really what went in and affected our mental health the most and that is very prevalent in the outskirts of the rainforest where our log home is. You can see the green mold that builds up on different like our deck, so you can see it and when we’re out there we’re very like we avoid it at all possible.

Sam: 35:57

So him saying let’s just open up the windows, Right. You could have been letting we were, oh, you were letting other molds in.

Kim: 36:06

Yes, not necessarily the black mold, but and he wasn’t as sick because Jeremy would be outside A lot of the time- Working on the log home for eight to 15 hours.

Kim: 36:17

Then he would come in and he has an APAP machine so his air was being filtered to him almost the whole day. I was so sick and I would sit on the chair all day. I would wake up, I would sit on the chair, I would do my videos. I’d go outside a little bit, do my videos come would sit on the chair, I would do my videos. I’d go outside a little bit, do my videos come back in. And I don’t wear an APAP so I had no filtered air.

Sam: 36:41

Oh no, all night, every night, you were breathing it in.

Kim: 36:44

Yeah, All day, 24 hours, seven days a week. So I definitely felt it. But he also has a gene and he worked as an HVAC engineer, so he was exposed to mold all the time. But he has a gene that he couldn’t feel it. He couldn’t, he didn’t have the symptoms that I had.

Sam: 37:00

Do you know what gene that?

Kim: 37:01

is A warrior gene. It’s called a warrior gene, which is so oxymoron, right, can people?

Sam: 37:07

get tested to see if they have that gene, and so if you have the warrior gene, you don’t feel symptoms like everybody else. But it doesn’t mean that you don’t have the mold.

Kim: 37:16

Correct.

Sam: 37:20

How do you check your home or environment for mold? So it’s like you know we’ve covered how to check your body blood tests, see a doctor urine tests. We’ll put all the resources that she mentioned in the description below. But what about your environment? What about your home, and how common is it to have it in your home?

Kim: 37:36

It’s pretty common Pretty common to have some of it during a leak or a brand new build and I think that’s very disappointing for people to think, oh, I just built my own house, but if you’re not using the proper sprays like Boracare if your material was left out, sprays like Boracare if your material was left out.

Kim: 37:58

There’s a lot of people that I watch on TikTok that were friends because of mold and they’re in a brand new house, so you can test and I highly recommend this. There’s two different ways that you can start. If you’ve had an active mold or you just want to check to see and you want an inexpensive test, you can go to Lowe’s or Home Depot and they have Petri dishes that you just open up, gives instructions, it’s very inexpensive and you just leave the petri dishes out for about 48 hours and then all of the air collects and then it grows. You put it in the dark for two weeks and it’ll grow. So if you, we had an active toilet leak in our log home and so before we went in and did a more expensive test with Got Mold, we actually did that to check to see if there was any spores that were collecting and growing.

Kim: 38:45

So, what is Got Mold? It’s gotmoldcom. We’ll put it in the description notes as well. But they actually send you this cool little itty bitty machine and you put in almost like a cloth pad inside of the machine and it pulls your air in collecting it. And then you send that collection off to them and they determine and tell you exactly how many molds you have in your house. Wow, and we’re so good. Now we have air doctors, which we love. Air doctor. I know there’s a lot of air filters out there.

Sam: 39:18

We like air doctor, we’re air doctor fans.

Kim: 39:20

Yeah, they’re so good that you actually, when we did it this last time because we check it often now we did leave some of our building supplies out for a year, and so we saw some mold, but then we sprayed it with Boracare. That stops the mold from growing, and actually it helped us when we had the active toilet leak from it growing more. So it didn’t grow at all because we sprayed everything with Boracare. We went in and we tested outside. That’s how you do. It is you test the outside, and then we tested our three most used rooms, including our master bath, and then where the toilet was, and our air inside is perfect. The air outside not so perfect.

Sam: 40:02

Yeah, your air inside your home is cleaner than your air outside. It’s perfect inside. Wow, that’s wild.

Kim: 40:10

I want to talk about real quick about one of the modalities that me and you did and I love it. And I didn’t even really know a lot about it until I started researching mold, which was the salt cave, and I know we’ve talked about this in a previous podcast, but halo therapy I didn’t know how great it was and Jeremy and I were cruising a lot for a while just to kind of take a break because we were building still, and I didn’t realize I was so drawn to doing halo therapy, which is salt therapy, and I didn’t realize how much it was helping us when we were cruising, because almost every one of the cruises had a spa that had the Himalayan salt wall and some salt on the ground but it was going in and it was breaking down the mucus. I had no idea until, really, me and you started digging into this when we were planning to do a podcast how much it helped us break down because the salt was penetrating our skin.

Kim: 41:10

Lungs, yep and our lungs, breathing it.

Sam: 41:13

Pulling toxins out. It’s very detoxing, calming at the same time.

Kim: 41:16

So calming. So I feel like if this is something that you’re struggling with and you need a safe place to go and sit is. I know where we went was great in Woodland Hills.

Sam: 41:27

A salt cave. A salt cave. A lot of spas, like you said, have Himalayan salt rooms. They’ll be heated and to me, when you add heat to the salt, it penetrates more. A salt bath, epsom salt bath, yes.

Kim: 41:40

Helps pull it out and clean. That’s a very inexpensive way of detoxing your body and using salt therapy. Yes, so the one thing, too, that I’m doing that’s a really big one is I’m doing hyperbaric oxygen therapy, which is HBOT, and we’ve talked about that as well. But it gets in there and it gives you 100%, if not more, oxygen penetrating through your skin. You’re breathing it in and it’s pushing spores immediately out of your cells, oxygenating your cells and pushing them out.

Sam: 42:12

Not out of your skin and pores, and out of your body, out of your cells, yes, so where does it go?

Kim: 42:18

It goes into your blood Blood and then you bind. Is you bring in a cinnabin or you bring in a cleanse and then it binds it and it helps push it out of your pee and your poo.

Sam: 42:29

Or lymphatic system, lymphatic system or skin.

Kim: 42:32

Because skin can be an indication as well that you have mold, acne, unexplained rashes that will never go away eczema I was just going to say eczema, yes.

Sam: 42:44

So do you think that people who have eczema and say, oh, I just have eczema or psoriasis? Do you think that mold is a contributing factor?

Kim: 42:56

Yeah, I do. I think that that’s a really big one. And then anything you can do to boost your mitochondria is what we’re talking about. Your lymphatic system’s going to push your mitochondria to get it all out. That’s why we talk about NAD and just all of these modalities that we talk about, yeah, man, and use yes, we use them regularly Red light therapy. Oh, it’s a game changer.

Sam: 43:19

I’ve been using it now every day. I love my Lumebox and I’m so mind blown at how just the red light alone. So you know, when you do gua sha, you do gua sha and you do it in a certain way to drain your lymph and you have all these lymph nodes in here and if you’re doing it right, you’ll feel like you need to clear your throat and you’ll actually feel drainage happen just from red light alone. You know, castor oil pack will do that as well, but just the red light alone, just the lume box right here. I just rest it on my neck and I use it multiple times a day. It will make me clear my throat and drain instantly.

Sam: 44:00

So the red light therapy, it actually penetrates deeply. And when you have a device like the Lumebox why we love it and we’ll put a code and link below in the description but the reason we love it is it also has NIR, so it has near infrared as well. So when you can put the settings both the red light and the near infrared on together, it’s penetrating deeper, right? Yes?

Kim: 44:24

Like seven to eight times deeper than just red light. That’s like biohacking stacking. You’re doing multiple biohacks in order to utilize your time, because we don’t have a lot of time in life. These things take forever. You know. You’re like come on, get with it. So, if you can do multiple things, I do vibration plate with my red light while lifting weights, you know, and like listening to frequencies that have subliminal messages.

Sam: 44:52

While running your business. Yeah, usually.

Kim: 44:55

I’m doing like 20 things.

Sam: 44:57

Always, always, queen multitasker. The worm queen is the queen multitasker as well, it’s true.

Kim: 45:04

I mean it’s good. It’s usually the best way that I can get things done.

Sam: 45:09

You know, a question you asked me recently, because I caught a virus a couple months ago and it was a nasty one that held on for dear life and it really kind of morphed a few times. No matter what I did, I couldn’t shake it. It was rough. Oh, it was so tough.

Kim: 45:23

Kim helped me a lot. Yeah, but you helped me a lot.

Sam: 45:26

You helped me heal myself through it. But you’re like do you feel like better when you leave your home? Yeah, do like better when you leave your home, do you? When you’re out and about, do you like not want to go home Like? You asked me this interesting question, so break that down a little bit so people maybe could understand those feelings more and how it’s like contributed to having mold in your home.

Kim: 45:44

So when you have mold in your home and you don’t know it, if you don’t ever want to be there, it’s your body telling you hey, something’s wrong in your home.

Kim: 45:54

I don’t feel safe, and that’s one huge and I’m going to get goosebumps. It’s one huge thing that I realized that I needed to work so heavily on, because if you don’t feel safe in your own body, you’re never going to heal. So if you’re running and you don’t ever have a safe place to go, your body’s not going to heal, and mold does that. So if you leave your home, where is your safe place? And you don’t want to come back.

Sam: 46:30

Or feel better when you’re not there, and you feel better when you’re not home.

Kim: 46:32

You have mold, or feel better when you’re not there, and you feel better when you’re not home.

Sam: 46:37

You have mold. Wow, it’s a frequency, right it?

Kim: 46:41

It’s a frequency.

Sam: 46:42

That’s deep.

Kim: 46:43

Yeah.

Sam: 46:44

So mold is a fungi? Yes, so are mushrooms. Yes, so it’s a common question you get all the time. Can you eat mushrooms? Can you take psychedelic mushrooms? Can you use functional mushrooms while cleansing mold? Yes, okay, why.

Kim: 47:02

Well, I highly recommend it too. Okay, this is a question that’s always asked of me because it’s a different frequency. It’s a healing frequency. Everything in life is energy and a frequency and those mushrooms are going in and assisting in a positive, healing way where you’ve got a brainwashing frequency of the mold. They’re two completely different things. They’re not even in the same. They shouldn’t even be both fungi. You know it really gave a bad rap to this beautiful thing that is so healing.

Sam: 47:36

Got it. But huge distinction there, huge. So it just depends on the kind and the type.

Sam: 47:41

I mean, even in the wild, though, you have mushrooms that are poisonous and ones that are super healing, so it’s kind of no different to me than that as a way to look at that. But thanks for clearing that up, because I know that’s really common. You know, not all fungi is equal, not to the human experience. You know, it’s like some help us and some hurt us, so it’s good to know which ones do both. I would love to know more about the cleanse. So Parify Cleansing you recommend people do it. How often?

Kim: 48:14

Two to three times prior to doing the moldiest cleanse. That helps boost your immune system a little bit. It will go in and it’ll help break up some spores, because that’s kind of what parasites are holding on to, and then it just overall helps kind of regulate your system a little bit. Now, keep in mind, wormwood suppresses mold. So if you get off of the parasite cleanse and you’re heightened rash or rage or brain fog, you’re probably living in it, and so that’s where you need to be conscientious. If you’re living in it, it can suppress it, and you need to be aware that you could be living in it.

Kim: 48:54

And that’s kind of the mold world sphere. When you’re doing wormwood or you’re doing parasite cleansing is oh well, you’re suppressing it. Well, yeah, I mean, obviously you’re trying to figure out what the root cause is when you start on this journey. So hopefully people do know that and that’s kind of where I’m like do two to three when you’re done, see how you feel and then, if you need to jump right in, jump right in and know that you should be examining your environment to see if you’re living in the mold as well.

Sam: 49:21

Yeah, I think that’s so important. Before even moving into a place, it’d be great to go to it and test it so you know what you’re moving into. Also, I think that it’s really interesting to get tested, your blood work done, because seeing levels and then cleansing and then doing it again, it’s just tangible proof. That’s like undeniable. And so when you see that you know for sure you’re doing the work and improving your health because you see it there on paper, I mean I’m a huge advocate of blood tests. Same Anything that is wrong with you, any symptoms you’re experiencing. I mean I can’t tell you how many times I’ve worked with a naturopath to heal ailments happening to me. Blood work so important. Actually, seeing results on paper gives you a starting point.

Kim: 50:11

Validating too.

Sam: 50:12

Validates you that nothing’s like actually wrong with you or it’s not all in your head, but there actually is these imbalances. You either have too much of the harmful things, like environmental toxins. You either have too much of something or not enough of the things you need the building blocks or the minerals or the supplements, vitamins, or a mixture of both.

Sam: 50:35

A lot of people have too much of the harmful and not enough of what you need. And so when you actually get to see on paper where the inside of your body is at, you have a starting place now to work with someone who can help put together a plan for you. Essentially, I like call it a health plan, I just like gave it a name. But my naturopath several times has been like all right, here’s the results. So you’re going to start taking this this often and always natural, always nature, always plants Like. I’ve been able to heal myself multiple times of so many things using nature as medicine and food as medicine and lifestyle, from getting blood work and actually seeing on paper. So huge advocate of that.

Kim: 51:15

I recommend it and it’s kind of good because you can utilize Western medicine. I’m not against Western medicine, I think we need it. But you can utilize Western medicine and go get those labs done and have your insurance pay for them, because not everything is covered when you go to a natural doctor. So you can still utilize it. They just need to know which molds to test for, and usually it’s like the top five that they’ll test for and your insurance will normally pay for that.

Kim: 51:37

Good to know, and in my case it was very validating when I said Jeremy, I have proof, we have mold poisoning. Because he was in such a mold hold so I could show him look, babe, I have active mold, that is what’s wrong with me. That means you have it too. If I have it, you have it. And we couldn’t afford for him to get tested at the time, so we just went off of. So that’s validating.

Sam: 52:04

If the person themselves has a mold hold or are brainwashed from the mold and they get a test and see the results, it could help pull them out of that.

Kim: 52:11

Yes, that’s what that Like, oh no.

Sam: 52:12

I need to do something about this, I do have it. And then now, knowing all of the harmful negative side effects or symptoms that people experience from it, the way that it negatively impacts and affects your life, I mean this is huge, like this is empowering, because it’s not just pointing to the problem, but it’s like okay, now what do we do about it?

Kim: 52:32

And there’s things. That’s the thing. That’s what’s so great about what we’re all doing here is there’s ways now to fix these problems that before people just thought they were lost, we’re not lost anymore. There’s options. There’s people we’re all out here talking about it.

Sam: 52:48

There’s cleanses, like Moldy’s from Rogers Hood.

Kim: 52:51

Like.

Sam: 52:51

Parify from Rogers Hood I mean Parify personally has literally transformed my health mentally, physically, emotionally, even spiritually, because I did also experience my frequency rising after removing hundreds of worms from my body, which is wild, and we’ll save that more for another time. But I’m just saying I can’t wait to do moldies. I can’t wait to jump in because I’m really eager to see how I feel afterward. I’m just saying I can’t wait to do moldies, I can’t wait to jump in because I’m really eager to see how I feel afterward.

Kim: 53:17

I’m excited for you. I think you’re going to love it.

Sam: 53:20

Thank you, I’m excited too. Like we always like to do, we like to end out our episodes with just giving honor and reverence to the plant kingdom, and to the plants. We are plant people and we absolutely love them. So what is an herb or plant that right now, you’re the most drawn to or that you’re using the most you’re the most fascinated by?

Kim: 53:43

Lion’s mane. I’ve been on the fence. There’s a couple of them that I’ve been drawn to, but I have to say that I’m really working on brain health right now, and I’m working on different avenues, and Lion’s Mane’s been on the journey with me for over four years. It helps break through the blood brain barrier of your brain and actually heal your brain versus just putting a bandaid on it. So I’ve been taking a lot of Lion’s Mane over the last couple of months and I’m definitely feeling better. Yeah, what’s yours?

Sam: 54:11

been. There’s always multiple, but right now just one that I’m using consistently. That I have been for quite a while, but magnesium it just helps me so much in so many ways and, like I was sharing earlier about my vitamin drips and a high dose of glutathione, it’s always accompanied by magnesium and for so many reasons helping with sleep, helping with digestion, helping with sleep, helping with digestion, helping with skin, helping with the nervous system Just absolutely love that mineral so much and I’m so grateful for it.

Kim: 54:42

And that’s funny because I just gave you some magnesium. You did. You were like oh, magnesium, I had a hard time with the smell, but like the magnesium in there is so helpful. It has an essential oil in it, yeah, and I have a. I have lime, so it’s. You know, smells are weird. For me but I, that’s funny. Yeah, yeah, no, I, yeah, I’m drawn to it and it’s obviously drawn to me, yeah, but thank you so much, you guys, for joining us.

Sam: 55:09

This is so important to get this information out, to help empower you on your healing journeys and know that you can absolutely take your health and your life and your power into your own hands and that you can heal. And we’re here to just spread information and shine light. Yeah, thanks for joining us. Thank you for joining us. Until next time. We’ll see you guys again. Thanks, guys, thanks.